Fernando Haddad: From 2022 to 2023, 60 billion of explicit deficit, plus precatórios, plus Bolsa Família, plus compensation for the governors, equals 200 billion.
Fernando Haddad: What I'm saying is that, all things considered for next year, we will have a surplus.
So, we need a fiscal adjustment of 2% of GDP.
Fernando Haddad: The interest rate, I agree with you, is at a level that, in my opinion, it should not be.
Fernando Haddad: So I agree; there is the remedy — let's implement the remedy together with the opposition.