Romeu Zema: How do we go about regaining this control of the State over society?
Romeu Zema: I've been saying it's about putting someone who has always worked all their life, who has always had to work, in fact.
That thing that every Brazilian, or 99% of Brazilians, have always known, which is to spend less than you earn.
Romeu Zema: Isn't that how Brazilians live?
Romeu Zema: But today we often have, within the public sector, a Lula who has always lived at the expense of the State and who always spends more than he earns.