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Today, Bruno, we are the state that has the fewest secretariats.",759.18,765.98,"papel-do-estado","Role of the State","ce3a6dc0-2223-4096-af6f-e4ced31ccd9c","reduce the size of the State and bureaucracy","States 'nós somos hoje' with a smaller number of secretariats — claims action.",{"idx":118,"utterance_id":119,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":120,"start_s":121,"end_s":122,"word_count":31,"topic_slug":112,"topic_label":113,"target_id":114,"target_proposition":115,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":124},144,"17364","Now, do you need three dentists working on your mouth to solve your tooth problem?",784.24,789,0.75,"Uses an analogy (a good dentist) to justify fewer secretariats.",{"idx":126,"utterance_id":127,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":128,"start_s":129,"end_s":130,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":62,"topic_label":58,"target_id":131,"target_proposition":132,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":134,"rationale":135},151,"17371","The issue of having goals, of having follow-up, didn't exist.",821.48,824.78,"3c772ac4-b4e9-4da2-a5df-445cfdcfcf5a","implement targets and periodic monitoring in state secretariats","neutro_descritivo",0.66,"Reports a lack of targets and follow-up in the past.",{"idx":137,"utterance_id":138,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":139,"start_s":140,"end_s":141,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":62,"topic_label":58,"target_id":131,"target_proposition":132,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":142,"rationale":143},155,"17375","to be able to follow up, give the guidelines, discuss some issues.",843.12,848.56,0.85,"Explains the purpose of the meetings: to monitor and issue guidelines.",{"idx":145,"utterance_id":146,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":147,"start_s":148,"end_s":149,"word_count":150,"topic_slug":62,"topic_label":58,"target_id":151,"target_proposition":152,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":154},165,"17385","When someone arrives there with a vision of efficiency, with a focus on delivery, you begin to make a striking difference.",901,910.58,23,"7f47a2da-90db-4c06-8848-31a877519244","improve public management",0.8,"Argues that a focus on efficiency makes a striking difference in public management.",{"idx":156,"utterance_id":157,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":158,"start_s":159,"end_s":160,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":162,"topic_label":163,"target_id":164,"target_proposition":165,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":166,"rationale":167},185,"17405","And these companies were... Bruno, in that situation you described, the positions were political, meant to serve political favors, but first of all they were bloated, just like the State.",1011.82,1026.98,28,"empresas-estatais","State-owned companies","4919226e-2481-483c-8f6a-036b9996d9c3","avoid political appointments to state-owned company leadership",0.72,"Describes the situation: state-owned companies filled with political appointments and bloated.",{"idx":169,"utterance_id":170,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":171,"start_s":172,"end_s":173,"word_count":174,"topic_slug":112,"topic_label":113,"target_id":175,"target_proposition":176,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":88,"rationale":177},186,"17406","Between state-owned companies, the State and autonomous agencies, we cut more than 50 thousand positions.",1027.28,1035.12,12,"06033de7-7f90-42c4-ac3d-a2d9c30f1ecc","reduce the size of the State and decrease dependence on government","Explicit statement: 'reduzimos mais de 50 mil cargos' (concrete action).",{"idx":179,"utterance_id":180,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":181,"start_s":182,"end_s":183,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":185,"topic_label":186,"target_id":187,"target_proposition":188,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":77,"rationale":189},190,"17410","The previous government paid salaries in installments, didn't pay the 13th salary, didn't make payments to suppliers or transfers to municipalities, and you had to cut back.",1043.28,1057.6,25,"orcamento-publico","Public Budget","1a6d2967-812f-48a0-818b-711f63bd5444","ensure timely payroll payments and transfers to municipalities","Criticizes delays by the previous government and implies having regularized payments.",{"idx":191,"utterance_id":192,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":193,"start_s":194,"end_s":195,"word_count":150,"topic_slug":162,"topic_label":163,"target_id":196,"target_proposition":197,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":142,"rationale":198},193,"17413","Now, the fact that most demonstrates how a state-owned company impedes development, I'll tell you two cases I lived through.",1060.44,1070.88,"12f81f74-4fc7-4bd7-a469-b19bdcaf15e3","improve management incentives in state-owned companies","Announces cases that prove how poor state management hinders development.",{"idx":200,"utterance_id":201,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":202,"start_s":203,"end_s":204,"word_count":85,"topic_slug":162,"topic_label":163,"target_id":205,"target_proposition":206,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":207},195,"17415","CEMIG — anyone who follows it knows that around the 2010s it went to invest all over Brazil, except in Minas Gerais.",1078.36,1090.8,"60c94b4d-6ff4-4911-9fff-697418138502","prioritize CEMIG investments in Minas Gerais infrastructure","Criticizes investments made outside Minas and argues for local prioritization.",{"idx":209,"utterance_id":210,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":211,"start_s":212,"end_s":213,"word_count":214,"topic_slug":162,"topic_label":163,"target_id":215,"target_proposition":216,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":217},205,"17425","These four investments together caused accounting losses of more than 12 billion reais for CEMIG.",1123.76,1133.14,17,"af42cc3e-942c-4a37-82d1-1d23257c6e29","ensure technical independence of state-owned companies by avoiding political appointments","Mentions an accounting loss of R$12 billion and criticizes poor investments.",{"idx":219,"utterance_id":220,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":221,"start_s":222,"end_s":223,"word_count":224,"topic_slug":225,"topic_label":226,"target_id":227,"target_proposition":228,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":229},218,"17438","Besides CEMIG having that accounting loss of over 12 billion on the books, there was also the deterioration of the entire transmission and distribution infrastructure in Minas.",1186.64,1201.1,27,"matriz-energetica","Energy Mix","bfe17923-04b7-4611-ac7b-a07c2b736cc7","recover and invest in power transmission and distribution infrastructure in Minas Gerais","Denounces the dilapidation of infrastructure and implies the need for rehabilitation.",{"idx":231,"utterance_id":232,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":233,"start_s":234,"end_s":235,"word_count":236,"topic_slug":225,"topic_label":226,"target_id":237,"target_proposition":238,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":166,"rationale":239},219,"17439","When I ran my campaign in 2018, Bruno and Malu, what I saw most... When I arrived in a town, there was a rural producer saying, 'oh, my center pivot is stopped, it's been four years, why don't I get power?'",1202.1,1217.54,43,"39a6cdbe-3ae7-4f0d-b8d8-a563b10ecadb","guarantee electricity supply to rural producers","Reports producers' complaints about lack of energy, without proposing action.",{"idx":241,"utterance_id":242,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":243,"start_s":244,"end_s":245,"word_count":246,"topic_slug":225,"topic_label":226,"target_id":247,"target_proposition":248,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":166,"rationale":249},220,"17440","'Oh, my factory — I had to buy a generator, I expanded production and Semig doesn't deliver power to me.'",1219.02,1225.08,22,"97131255-3968-4e6b-8d71-96bdb0043198","guarantee electric power supply to industries and producers","Reports a supply problem and use of a generator, with no explicit proposal.",{"idx":11,"utterance_id":251,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":252,"start_s":253,"end_s":254,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":225,"topic_label":226,"target_id":255,"target_proposition":256,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":257,"rationale":258},"17442","So much so that, in my administration, to correct this, we — Semig just turned 70 years old recently.",1229.08,1236.92,"c1eed7ed-d24e-4968-9b22-57a537f3dd64","expand transmission and distribution infrastructure for electric power",0.78,"Says his administration acted to correct the problem (claims credit for action).",{"idx":260,"utterance_id":261,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":262,"start_s":263,"end_s":264,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":225,"topic_label":226,"target_id":255,"target_proposition":256,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":267},223,"17443","In 70 years, it had built 400 substations.",1237.8,1241.52,8,0.7,"Cites the history of substations built by the state company as descriptive information.",{"idx":269,"utterance_id":270,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":271,"start_s":272,"end_s":273,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":225,"topic_label":226,"target_id":255,"target_proposition":256,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":274},224,"17444","In my administration, we delivered 200, to give you an idea.",1242.1,1245.82,"Claims delivery of 200 substations during his administration (concrete action).",{"idx":276,"utterance_id":277,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":278,"start_s":279,"end_s":280,"word_count":174,"topic_slug":225,"topic_label":226,"target_id":255,"target_proposition":256,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":257,"rationale":281},226,"17446","In 7 years, we are building 200 to make up for that backlog.",1248.7,1254.14,"Says that in 7 years they built 200 substations to 'tirar o 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energy.",1288.76,1295.84,13,"meio-ambiente-e-energia-renovavel","Environment and renewable energy","8526de69-21e3-45bb-bdc0-cb3c0a087572","invest in logistical infrastructure and renewable energy (waterway, railway, roads, solar, wind)","Reports initial generation of 500 MW when assuming office, stated without an explicit prompt.",{"idx":322,"utterance_id":323,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":324,"start_s":325,"end_s":326,"word_count":174,"topic_slug":316,"topic_label":317,"target_id":318,"target_proposition":319,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":166,"rationale":327},242,"17462","That means we've practically put an Itaipu inside Minas Gerais.",1308.6,1313.52,"Uses 'nós' to attribute the large increase in solar to his administration.",{"idx":329,"utterance_id":330,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":331,"start_s":332,"end_s":333,"word_count":31,"topic_slug":316,"topic_label":317,"target_id":334,"target_proposition":335,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":336,"rationale":337},250,"17470","Because CEMIG only authorized the construction of a solar plant for those who were friends of the king.",1336.16,1344.7,"623c5c92-44a2-4057-9fbb-977adf00a0c6","authorize installation of solar plants transparently and competitively",0.87,"Accuses the state company of authorizing only 'amigos do rei' — defends transparency.",{"idx":339,"utterance_id":340,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":341,"start_s":342,"end_s":343,"word_count":344,"topic_slug":316,"topic_label":317,"target_id":334,"target_proposition":335,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":345,"rationale":346},251,"17471","Then the king's friend built a solar plant, which was and still is, despite changes, a very profitable business.",1346.54,1354.3,21,0.86,"Describes favoritism in authorizations, implying a call for fair criteria.",{"idx":348,"utterance_id":349,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":350,"start_s":351,"end_s":352,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":316,"topic_label":317,"target_id":334,"target_proposition":335,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":142,"rationale":353},256,"17476","You pay me 4 million, I'll sell it to you.",1370.8,1373.1,"Reports that authorization was sold for payment, criticizing favoritism.",{"idx":355,"utterance_id":356,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":357,"start_s":358,"end_s":359,"word_count":315,"topic_slug":316,"topic_label":317,"target_id":334,"target_proposition":335,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":345,"rationale":360},258,"17478","And the line wouldn't move to favor a few of the king's friends.",1376.88,1383.08,"Says the line wasn't moving to favor a few — calls for 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measure.",{"idx":379,"utterance_id":380,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":381,"start_s":382,"end_s":383,"word_count":384,"topic_slug":162,"topic_label":163,"target_id":196,"target_proposition":197,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":385},262,"17482","by Red Hunter, went through that whole process, and one of the things I demanded of him was a map of Minas online, which is still there to this day, anyone can consult it, showing where it's possible to get a connection.",1397.62,1410.74,37,"demands a public map and transparency in the state-owned company - claims this action as their own.",{"idx":387,"utterance_id":388,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":389,"start_s":390,"end_s":391,"word_count":37,"topic_slug":162,"topic_label":163,"target_id":392,"target_proposition":393,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":394,"rationale":395},264,"17484","So you can see how a company... can stall the development of a State and of a country.",1415.34,1422.36,"145b3260-c134-42c1-944e-2bf693a7a301","privatize Petrobras",0.82,"says a state-owned company can hinder development and is not a good business.",{"idx":397,"utterance_id":398,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":399,"start_s":400,"end_s":401,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":162,"topic_label":163,"target_id":392,"target_proposition":393,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":77,"rationale":402},265,"17485","That's why a state-owned company is not a good business.",1422.5,1425.58,"explicitly declares 'empresa estatal não é um bom negócio'.",{"idx":404,"utterance_id":405,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":406,"start_s":407,"end_s":408,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":409,"topic_label":410,"target_id":411,"target_proposition":412,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":257,"rationale":413},266,"17486","You mentioned the Correios there and that's a current example.",1425.62,1428.76,"correios","Postal Service","b843dd11-a256-465e-8d9c-aa0f20069b91","privatize Correios","cites Correios as a current example when criticizing state-owned companies.",{"idx":415,"utterance_id":416,"speaker_name":417,"text":418,"start_s":419,"end_s":420,"word_count":85,"topic_slug":409,"topic_label":410,"target_id":411,"target_proposition":412,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":421},270,"17490","Desconhecido","Because you have an entire infrastructure that was created by private competitors, who invest much more, because they make a profit and use the profit to reinvest.",1445.8,1451.86,"suggests that private competitors reinvest profits, a pro-market argument.",{"idx":423,"utterance_id":424,"speaker_name":417,"text":425,"start_s":426,"end_s":427,"word_count":315,"topic_slug":409,"topic_label":410,"target_id":428,"target_proposition":429,"stance":430,"stance_confidence":77,"rationale":431},272,"17492","And then to be able to solve this problem of the Correios, what's going to happen?",1453.8,1457.14,"72e0438d-c7ae-4573-a788-039493b9b78c","capitalize Correios with public funds","contra","declares that the State will capitalize Correios and criticizes the use of taxes.",{"idx":433,"utterance_id":434,"speaker_name":417,"text":435,"start_s":436,"end_s":437,"word_count":150,"topic_slug":185,"topic_label":186,"target_id":438,"target_proposition":439,"stance":430,"stance_confidence":345,"rationale":440},274,"17494","So it ends up that our tax money, instead of going to education, to security, goes to save the Correios.",1459.2,1463.58,"62dbe1a8-2390-4433-b427-13103f6cf476","allocate public funds to recapitalize loss-making state-owned companies","criticizes that taxes would go to save Correios instead of education\u002Fsecurity.",{"idx":442,"utterance_id":443,"speaker_name":417,"text":444,"start_s":445,"end_s":446,"word_count":37,"topic_slug":447,"topic_label":448,"target_id":449,"target_proposition":450,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":166,"rationale":451},278,"17498","So I say that my task, together with the group's directors, is to allocate the assets well.",1471.58,1476.16,"politica-de-investimentos","Investment Policy","7be7f049-c48b-4551-a717-d4e7772fdf6a","prioritize public investments based on science, data, and technical expertise","advocates allocating money where it yields more results, closing inefficient entities.",{"idx":453,"utterance_id":454,"speaker_name":417,"text":455,"start_s":456,"end_s":457,"word_count":174,"topic_slug":409,"topic_label":410,"target_id":428,"target_proposition":429,"stance":430,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":458},286,"17506","They say they don't have money, don't have resources, they blame that.",1491.38,1493.7,"criticizes injecting public money into a business that isn't moving forward.",{"idx":49,"utterance_id":460,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":461,"start_s":462,"end_s":463,"word_count":150,"topic_slug":409,"topic_label":410,"target_id":411,"target_proposition":412,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":464,"rationale":465},"17509","And the Correios, as you said, was worth a ton of money back then, 10 years ago, 8 years ago, when privatization was being considered.",1500.58,1509.32,0.68,"states that Correios was worth much more before and has lost value today; market description.",{"idx":467,"utterance_id":468,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":469,"start_s":470,"end_s":471,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":472,"topic_label":473,"target_id":474,"target_proposition":475,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":476,"rationale":477},331,"17551","And I, from the start, have always given my salary.",1707.22,1710.04,"etica-e-integridade-publica","Ethics and Public Integrity","6d04c910-d648-4c4b-bfd6-ef87c5d0eaab","donate public office salaries",0.76,"claims to have donated his own salary while public servants were not receiving pay.",{"idx":479,"utterance_id":480,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":481,"start_s":482,"end_s":483,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":40,"topic_label":36,"target_id":484,"target_proposition":485,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":307,"rationale":486},361,"17581","Because he believes he can contribute and health in Minas is making extraordinary progress with his management as well.",1860.62,1868,"d4c18721-325b-4de9-bb4d-4b5c231bab4b","expand the public healthcare network","attributes health improvements to the secretary's management, claiming credit for the result.",{"idx":488,"utterance_id":489,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":490,"start_s":491,"end_s":492,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":185,"topic_label":186,"target_id":493,"target_proposition":494,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":495},382,"17602","And we proved, after seven years, that it's possible to reverse this chaotic picture.",2002.02,2008.88,"7e1f57a1-4c84-4147-8fc8-f96d6941530f","improve state public finances","claims they reversed a chaotic situation in seven years, taking credit for the action.",{"idx":32,"utterance_id":497,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":498,"start_s":499,"end_s":500,"word_count":315,"topic_slug":62,"topic_label":58,"target_id":501,"target_proposition":502,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":257,"rationale":503},"17603","And it's with competent people, as I told you, with targets, with monitoring.",2009.48,2013.98,"2e8a5e50-f04b-473b-bee8-4b47cc327d34","implement the Managerial Responsibility Law for city management","Argues that progress came with competent people, targets, and monitoring.",{"idx":505,"utterance_id":506,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":507,"start_s":508,"end_s":509,"word_count":367,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":510,"target_proposition":511,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":512},384,"17604","We didn't have a scandal in my government, we didn't have corruption.",2014.6,2018.88,"69c8ebb4-f05b-4c7c-ad3a-e24fb0df873e","implement measures to prevent corruption in public administration","Claims there were no scandals in the government, citing this as an anti-corruption result.",{"idx":514,"utterance_id":515,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":516,"start_s":517,"end_s":518,"word_count":31,"topic_slug":519,"topic_label":520,"target_id":521,"target_proposition":522,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":345,"rationale":523},385,"17605","I was criticized recently, now because of a flight I took, that I was late for.",2020.48,2025.44,"transparencia-e-sigilo-institucional","Transparency & Institutional Secrecy","9048f758-1722-4fbe-8c1c-e86b9b8e1f61","publish government spending and acts in full","States that everything they spend is posted on the transparency portal.",{"idx":525,"utterance_id":526,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":527,"start_s":528,"end_s":529,"word_count":31,"topic_slug":62,"topic_label":58,"target_id":151,"target_proposition":152,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":530},396,"17616","So, in Minas we made this progress and that's what Brazil needs.",2065.64,2071.08,"States that the progress made in Minas is what Brazil needs.",{"idx":532,"utterance_id":533,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":534,"start_s":535,"end_s":536,"word_count":344,"topic_slug":185,"topic_label":186,"target_id":493,"target_proposition":494,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":166,"rationale":537},397,"17617","We went from a deficit in the PT era of R$11 billion to a surplus in 2024 of R$5 billion.",2071.82,2082.02,"Presents figures moving from deficit to surplus as a result.",{"idx":539,"utterance_id":540,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":541,"start_s":542,"end_s":543,"word_count":37,"topic_slug":544,"topic_label":545,"target_id":546,"target_proposition":547,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":548},407,"17627","And I will hand over to my successor in a few months an ongoing construction site.",2110.42,2116.58,"infraestrutura-e-saneamento","Infrastructure and Sanitation","a2b61106-9c14-4fa9-b9cf-6720c898c2dd","complete ongoing state public works","Says they will leave the construction site with funds deposited for completion.",{"idx":550,"utterance_id":551,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":552,"start_s":553,"end_s":554,"word_count":174,"topic_slug":62,"topic_label":58,"target_id":555,"target_proposition":556,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":394,"rationale":557},418,"17638","Now, what we need in Brazil is management and not politicking.",2167.14,2171.64,"9f4a9a85-5d9a-46bf-be0a-05ce152e2caf","prioritize technical management over politicking in public administration","Declares the need for management, not politicking, for Brazil.",{"idx":559,"utterance_id":560,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":561,"start_s":562,"end_s":563,"word_count":174,"topic_slug":564,"topic_label":565,"target_id":566,"target_proposition":567,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":568},420,"17640","And there has never been a businessman running Brazil, an entrepreneur — do you agree?",2177.76,2181.78,"lideranca-e-gestao","Leadership & Management","211cd3b0-1583-4cfd-aa97-41c24a2a75b7","elect a president with an entrepreneurial profile and business experience","Asks why not give an entrepreneur the opportunity to run the country.",{"idx":570,"utterance_id":571,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":572,"start_s":573,"end_s":574,"word_count":344,"topic_slug":575,"topic_label":576,"target_id":577,"target_proposition":578,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":336,"rationale":579},431,"17651","That STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) there, I think it could recommend closing the Central Bank, closing the Federal Police, and it would assume everything.",2244.8,2251.2,"instituicoes","Institutions","80a0704f-55c3-4aa9-ba07-7ad2239d98ca","ensure STF respects Executive and Legislative decisions","Criticizes the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) for 'se intrometer em tudo' and advocates restricting its role.",{"idx":581,"utterance_id":582,"speaker_name":417,"text":583,"start_s":584,"end_s":585,"word_count":246,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":586,"target_proposition":587,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":464,"rationale":588},443,"17663","We could say we have about R$1 trillion of nominal deficit when you take the primary plus the interest on the debt.",2289.62,2295.54,"3d1e5345-ced3-405f-8bbd-5b7d02959ffe","reduce the public deficit (context: inherited deficit)","States the country has about R$1 trillion in deficit.",{"idx":590,"utterance_id":591,"speaker_name":417,"text":592,"start_s":593,"end_s":594,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":595,"target_proposition":596,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":134,"rationale":597},444,"17664","We are a country with stagnating productivity practically since the 1980s.",2296.1,2299.94,"28f83076-957b-4d51-9022-5a9e27e8ed58","improve the country's economic productivity","Notes stagnation in productivity since the 1980s.",{"idx":599,"utterance_id":600,"speaker_name":417,"text":601,"start_s":602,"end_s":603,"word_count":214,"topic_slug":604,"topic_label":605,"target_id":606,"target_proposition":607,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":608,"rationale":609},445,"17665","Social Security underwent reform recently, but it will have to be reformed again in the future.",2300.46,2304.1,"previdencia","Social Security","2fd987ce-6239-417c-af76-5e6488aa0ae5","implement pension reform",0.65,"Says that the pension system was reformed, but may require a new reform.",{"idx":611,"utterance_id":612,"speaker_name":417,"text":613,"start_s":614,"end_s":615,"word_count":224,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":616,"target_proposition":617,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":618},446,"17666","Education — we are in the worst positions in international exams; we are second-worst in the ranking of countries, only behind South Africa.",2304.88,2312.72,"7e5df0bb-d334-4657-85c6-dfcc6532853b","ensure quality public education","Reports poor performance in international exams without proposing concrete measures.",{"idx":620,"utterance_id":621,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":622,"start_s":623,"end_s":624,"word_count":625,"topic_slug":185,"topic_label":186,"target_id":626,"target_proposition":627,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":142,"rationale":628},456,"17676","And Brazil — when you correct this issue of the federal government's overspending (I think you who follow the economy will agree with me) — you begin to correct a series of other problems.",2377.9,2389.52,34,"dc89b696-57d7-43d2-8b28-4d789bc25628","reduce growth of federal public spending","Criticizes 'gastança' and says that correcting it will solve other problems.",{"idx":630,"utterance_id":631,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":632,"start_s":633,"end_s":634,"word_count":635,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":636,"target_proposition":637,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":638},457,"17677","The big numbers today, I think, are a federal government debt of R$8 trillion; 15% interest on R$8 trillion means R$1.2 trillion per year in interest payments alone, not considering all the other expenses.",2391.1,2413.14,44,"b1066307-2079-46cd-a8e8-557d31a5b7d2","reduce public debt as a proportion of GDP","Presents debt figures and interest calculations without proposing immediate action.",{"idx":640,"utterance_id":641,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":642,"start_s":643,"end_s":644,"word_count":31,"topic_slug":185,"topic_label":186,"target_id":645,"target_proposition":646,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":77,"rationale":647},458,"17678","Because we have a profligate, wasteful government that has no responsibility toward the future.",2413.96,2421.72,"17b10bec-9084-4227-b49c-8c2cd40f1f4d","implement fiscal responsibility in federal public spending","Calls the government 'perdulário' and demands fiscal responsibility.",{"idx":649,"utterance_id":650,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":651,"start_s":652,"end_s":653,"word_count":37,"topic_slug":185,"topic_label":186,"target_id":645,"target_proposition":646,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":654},461,"17681","When a government comes in and says, 'we're going to be serious about spending, here every year...'",2429.62,2436.14,"Directly proposes that the next government 'seja sério com gasto'.",{"idx":656,"utterance_id":657,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":658,"start_s":659,"end_s":660,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":185,"topic_label":186,"target_id":661,"target_proposition":662,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":663},462,"17682","If inflation is 3% I'll only allow spending to increase by 2%.",2436.22,2439.92,"26a5acde-a996-4585-8d79-f588d2f475ce","limit growth of federal public spending to a rate below inflation","Defines an explicit rule: if inflation is 3% allow spending to increase 2%.",{"idx":665,"utterance_id":666,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":667,"start_s":668,"end_s":669,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":670,"target_proposition":671,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":672},463,"17683","We'll improve the accounts, that interest rate will fall by at least half.",2441.7,2447.34,"e6a2a07d-0a1c-49c9-8834-5d0475590a62","reduce the Selic rate","Claims that fiscal discipline will make the interest rate fall by half.",{"idx":674,"utterance_id":675,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":676,"start_s":677,"end_s":678,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":679,"target_proposition":680,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":394,"rationale":681},470,"17690","So, with that, besides improving public finances, you also have a gigantic impact on the private sector.",2471.82,2481.48,"85019b26-4a45-4769-a7c5-43a86e3063e0","reduce the real interest rate","Says that a fall in interest rates will allow companies to invest and modernize.",{"idx":683,"utterance_id":684,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":685,"start_s":686,"end_s":687,"word_count":85,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":688,"target_proposition":689,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":77,"rationale":690},475,"17695","Then you have the capacity to invest more in education—the municipalities, the states, the Union—you have the capacity to invest more in public security and in health.",2523.18,2535.78,"a9f9a5f8-f7cc-4679-88a6-0ac8027df684","increase investments in public education in Paraná","Says that with a better economy there will be capacity to invest more in education.",{"idx":692,"utterance_id":693,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":694,"start_s":695,"end_s":696,"word_count":150,"topic_slug":185,"topic_label":186,"target_id":626,"target_proposition":627,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":697},476,"17696","So I say that this problem of the PT's overspending, of Lula's, is a problem that keeps Brazil stuck.",2536.36,2546.14,"Criticizes 'gastança do PT' and points to it as an obstacle for the country.",{"idx":699,"utterance_id":700,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":701,"start_s":702,"end_s":703,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":185,"topic_label":186,"target_id":645,"target_proposition":646,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":142,"rationale":704},480,"17700","Everyone only wants to spend, spend; everyone just wants another slice, nobody wants to tighten their belt.",2556.46,2562.32,"Rebukes a culture of excessive spending and calls for tightening the belt.",{"idx":706,"utterance_id":707,"speaker_name":417,"text":708,"start_s":709,"end_s":710,"word_count":711,"topic_slug":185,"topic_label":186,"target_id":645,"target_proposition":646,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":712},507,"17727","Exactly, we can't achieve the surplus, but when someone comes in with a much more fiscally responsible stance, just that person having that stance can cause long-term interest rates to plummet.",2696.02,2705.5,33,"Claims that a fiscalist stance by a new government can lower long-term interest rates.",{"idx":714,"utterance_id":715,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":716,"start_s":717,"end_s":718,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":719,"target_proposition":720,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":345,"rationale":721},543,"17763","Because what it pays in interest, that 1.2 trillion, is much more than what it pays in Bolsa Família.",2822.98,2832.16,"ec087415-5f9a-4cb7-a300-bf2a4f0314e6","reduce interest payments and prioritize social transfers","Contrasts interest payments with Bolsa Família, criticizing the prioritization of rentiers.",{"idx":723,"utterance_id":724,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":725,"start_s":726,"end_s":727,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":728,"target_proposition":729,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":730},559,"17779","First you have to have zero tolerance.",2916.32,2919.18,"7e293b71-be32-4313-9e39-ace5b8287c87","resume anti-corruption agenda","Declares 'primeiro você tem de ter uma tolerância zero' explicitly.",{"idx":732,"utterance_id":733,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":734,"start_s":735,"end_s":736,"word_count":37,"topic_slug":737,"topic_label":738,"target_id":739,"target_proposition":740,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":142,"rationale":741},567,"17787","The only expenditure, in my opinion, that has to be confidential is that related to the country's security.",2948.84,2955.28,"transparencia-fiscal","Fiscal Transparency","7d9b6728-9726-4165-adfd-62d34754fa02","disclose government expenses and acts publicly and transparently","Says that only security expenditures should be confidential.",{"idx":743,"utterance_id":744,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":745,"start_s":746,"end_s":747,"word_count":367,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":748,"target_proposition":749,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":142,"rationale":750},585,"17805","So, I think we need to separate the public from the private.",3025.48,3028.36,"fb0a4066-460c-40e7-b4dc-7e89e0a73bd2","separate public and private interests and oversee conflicts of interest","Advocates separating the public from the private and overseeing those who hold positions.",{"idx":752,"utterance_id":753,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":754,"start_s":755,"end_s":756,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":510,"target_proposition":511,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":77,"rationale":757},591,"17811","So I think we need to start to moralize.",3062.58,3065.4,"States that the fight requires 'bons exemplos' and 'leis rígidas'.",{"idx":759,"utterance_id":760,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":761,"start_s":762,"end_s":763,"word_count":344,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":510,"target_proposition":511,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":764},603,"17823","Fachin is there at the STF wanting to introduce a code of ethics and it seems that no one wants a code of ethics.",3135.62,3142.32,"Mentions support for a code of ethics for members of the STF and authorities.",{"idx":766,"utterance_id":767,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":768,"start_s":769,"end_s":770,"word_count":367,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":771,"target_proposition":772,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":394,"rationale":773},615,"17835","And regarding crime, it's somewhat along the same lines.",3198.12,3201.68,"8790c3c6-f0d7-44e4-ba8d-d59e67ab76ac","increase rigor in combating crime and incarcerating criminals","Associates fighting crime with the need for greater toughness in enforcement.",{"idx":775,"utterance_id":776,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":777,"start_s":778,"end_s":779,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":771,"target_proposition":772,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":77,"rationale":780},621,"17841","When you act that way, it seems you start to make the message clear.",3247.4,3252.44,"Justifies lethal police action as a way to send a message to criminals.",{"idx":782,"utterance_id":783,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":784,"start_s":785,"end_s":786,"word_count":297,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":787,"target_proposition":788,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":789},630,"17850","So, we need to make the laws stricter here.",3310.54,3314.86,"fa6bfe10-aa0d-4087-aedc-3bceeb0430d1","toughen criminal law","Explicitly says 'precisamos tornar as leis mais rígidas'.",{"idx":791,"utterance_id":792,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":793,"start_s":794,"end_s":795,"word_count":31,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":796,"target_proposition":797,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":798},631,"17851","A criminal does not receive police with dialogue or a bouquet of flowers; he receives police with bullets.",3315.76,3323.68,"2f4e76ea-09cf-4eef-8044-6d1ac4e29c43","use police force to arrest or neutralize criminals","States that police should retaliate with 'bala', not dialogue.",{"idx":800,"utterance_id":801,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":802,"start_s":803,"end_s":804,"word_count":150,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":771,"target_proposition":772,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":77,"rationale":805},634,"17854","And not with an electronic ankle bracelet in the street — a criminal who poses some degree of risk to society, as has often been the case in Brazil.",3331.42,3342.12,"Advocates prison instead of an ankle monitor for high-risk criminals.",{"idx":807,"utterance_id":808,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":809,"start_s":810,"end_s":811,"word_count":367,"topic_slug":604,"topic_label":605,"target_id":812,"target_proposition":813,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":814},658,"17878","There is also a cost to the social security system, how many end up disabled.",3470.6,3476.24,"0f1ec626-3e67-48fc-9b21-aa0b91729956","guarantee financing for Social Security","Reports the cost to Social Security from disability without proposing a policy.",{"idx":816,"utterance_id":817,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":818,"start_s":819,"end_s":820,"word_count":31,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":821,"target_proposition":822,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":823},659,"17879","He took a shot in the spine, had a limb amputated because of that rivalry, that war.",3477.36,3484.78,"424702f4-da2d-4263-a4f2-3e4721f70058","reduce armed violence","Describes injuries caused by rivalry without proposing concrete action.",{"idx":825,"utterance_id":826,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":827,"start_s":828,"end_s":829,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":821,"target_proposition":822,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":830},660,"17880","So, the cost to Brazil is enormous.",3485.26,3487.5,"States that the cost of violence for Brazil is enormous, without a proposal.",{"idx":832,"utterance_id":833,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":834,"start_s":835,"end_s":836,"word_count":367,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":821,"target_proposition":822,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":837},661,"17881","And you generally lose young men who are in their productive years.",3488.08,3492.14,"Reports the loss of young people of productive age due to violence.",{"idx":839,"utterance_id":840,"speaker_name":417,"text":841,"start_s":842,"end_s":843,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":844,"target_proposition":845,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":846},662,"17882","Indeed, crime is one of the most urgent problems in Brazil.",3494.6,3499.48,"b1287094-4941-493f-9b6d-acae0c36f29b","reduce street crime","Declares criminality an urgent problem without proposing a specific measure.",{"idx":848,"utterance_id":849,"speaker_name":417,"text":850,"start_s":851,"end_s":852,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":853,"target_proposition":854,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":855,"rationale":856},664,"17884","Who knows if they're not running the country from behind the scenes.",3503.56,3505.62,"83ed6fea-e412-41d9-895c-97b3daf36996","investigate agreements between government officials and criminal organizations",0.55,"Suggests criminals' power behind the scenes without proposing explicit action.",{"idx":858,"utterance_id":859,"speaker_name":417,"text":860,"start_s":861,"end_s":862,"word_count":150,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":863,"target_proposition":864,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":865,"rationale":866},665,"17885","Because I said the other day, what Vorcaro did with a few billion showed that it's not that expensive to buy a country.",3506.24,3510.94,"6d813853-f2d4-42fd-95ab-2decac02d65f","investigate and hold politicians accountable for corruption",0.6,"Cites the case as evidence of the country being bought, without recommending a legal measure.",{"idx":868,"utterance_id":869,"speaker_name":417,"text":870,"start_s":871,"end_s":872,"word_count":31,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":873,"target_proposition":874,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":865,"rationale":875},685,"17905","Regarding education, Zema, why do you think Brazil doesn't make progress in education?",3566.8,3570.78,"baa06254-a794-493b-b6f0-e64731c8e081","improve municipal education indicators","Asks why Brazil doesn't progress in education, without proposing action.",{"idx":877,"utterance_id":878,"speaker_name":417,"text":879,"start_s":880,"end_s":881,"word_count":882,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":873,"target_proposition":874,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":883},686,"17906","If you want a country to develop, to be more productive, that generally happens because people receive education, have good ideas, and start businesses in that country.",3570.98,3581.52,29,"Links education to development without presenting a concrete policy.",{"idx":885,"utterance_id":886,"speaker_name":417,"text":887,"start_s":888,"end_s":889,"word_count":890,"topic_slug":891,"topic_label":892,"target_id":893,"target_proposition":894,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":608,"rationale":895},687,"17907","If the environment is friendly to that, if there is private property, if they are clear that the results will be theirs, if there is more legal certainty — but it all starts with education.",3582.68,3593.3,32,"ambiente-de-negocios","Business Environment","a8f1a989-55a6-4428-b329-b71b695c438b","ensure legal certainty and protection of private property","Lists legal security and property rights as conditions for entrepreneurship.",{"idx":897,"utterance_id":898,"speaker_name":417,"text":899,"start_s":900,"end_s":901,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":873,"target_proposition":874,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":902},696,"17916","So that's the level of education in Brazil today.",3622.2,3624.12,"Summarizes the education level as low with a practical example.",{"idx":904,"utterance_id":905,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":906,"start_s":907,"end_s":908,"word_count":37,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":616,"target_proposition":617,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":909},698,"17918","But I, who have been leading the Minas government for seven years, we have made progress in education.",3632.76,3639.86,"Claims advances in education during their government (own action).",{"idx":911,"utterance_id":912,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":913,"start_s":914,"end_s":915,"word_count":174,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":616,"target_proposition":617,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":257,"rationale":916},699,"17919","As I mentioned here, we renovated more than 2,500 school buildings, major renovations.",3640.38,3646.66,"Mentions the renovation of more than 2,500 school buildings as a government action.",{"idx":918,"utterance_id":919,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":920,"start_s":921,"end_s":922,"word_count":923,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":924,"target_proposition":925,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":926},701,"17921","We have places in Brazil, in Minas — I think that no longer exists — where people have classes in totally improvised places.",3650.56,3661.06,24,"9e38e5b9-6372-46cb-9d9d-dedc9102d421","improve state school infrastructure","Describes classes in improvised locations without proposing new policy.",{"idx":928,"utterance_id":929,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":930,"start_s":931,"end_s":932,"word_count":297,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":924,"target_proposition":925,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":142,"rationale":933},703,"17923","First, I think you need to have all that infrastructure.",3667.22,3670.88,"Says 'você precisa ter' infrastructure, advocating concrete action.",{"idx":935,"utterance_id":936,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":937,"start_s":938,"end_s":939,"word_count":104,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":616,"target_proposition":617,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":940},704,"17924","We installed Wi‑Fi everywhere, CCTV and TVs for security purposes, and a school meal that I insist on eating when I go to the countryside, which isn't much different from my home.",3671.1,3682.68,"Lists measures implemented (Wi‑Fi, school meals) as government actions.",{"idx":942,"utterance_id":943,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":944,"start_s":945,"end_s":946,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":947,"target_proposition":948,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":142,"rationale":949},705,"17925","To give you an idea, the PT, in 2018, invested 20 million in school meals.",3683.08,3690.02,"593bc98d-8347-4486-86f9-d4485015abfe","increase funding for school meals","Compares investments and demands increased funding for school meals.",{"idx":951,"utterance_id":952,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":953,"start_s":954,"end_s":955,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":956,"target_proposition":957,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":958},714,"17934","What we need, and you who come from the armed forces, from a military background, know very well.",3715.26,3723.72,"90fbc205-35f0-4cd4-ae08-c330766f3a24","increase discipline and values education in public schools","Declares 'o que nós precisamos' is discipline and learning principles.",{"idx":960,"utterance_id":961,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":962,"start_s":963,"end_s":964,"word_count":965,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":966,"target_proposition":967,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":968},716,"17936","In Brazil, what we have today — I talk a lot with some teachers — are students who sometimes come from poorer families who even receive Bolsa Família, and the teacher says, 'they don't come'; when the mother is warned that she might stop receiving Bolsa Família she starts to worry a little.",3733.98,3755.24,54,"55d17592-66d4-4a72-866d-183fedf1e092","maintain and expand social benefits conditioned on school attendance","Reports that warnings about attendance affect Bolsa Família, without proposing a law.",{"idx":970,"utterance_id":971,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":972,"start_s":973,"end_s":974,"word_count":344,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":966,"target_proposition":967,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":975},717,"17937","So, in my opinion, every father and mother should be responsible — whether or not they receive Bolsa Família — for their children's attendance.",3756.68,3765.66,"Argues for holding parents responsible for their children's attendance to receive benefits.",{"idx":977,"utterance_id":978,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":979,"start_s":980,"end_s":981,"word_count":85,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":966,"target_proposition":967,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":77,"rationale":982},718,"17938","Just as you need to be up to date with your tax payments, you also need to be up to date with your child's school attendance.",3766.78,3775.56,"Compares school attendance to civic obligations, supporting conditioning.",{"idx":984,"utterance_id":985,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":986,"start_s":987,"end_s":988,"word_count":85,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":966,"target_proposition":967,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":142,"rationale":989},720,"17940","I think that in a country where people still don't have that sense of the importance of attending school, we need to toughen the rule a bit.",3776.92,3787.32,"Supports tightening school attendance rules explicitly.",{"idx":991,"utterance_id":992,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":993,"start_s":994,"end_s":995,"word_count":996,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":966,"target_proposition":967,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":997},721,"17941","Say, your child needs to attend at least 80% of classes; otherwise you are not up to date with your obligations as a citizen, like voting, like performing military service, etc.",3787.88,3800.86,31,"Proposes 80% attendance and administrative\u002Fcivic sanctions otherwise.",{"idx":999,"utterance_id":1000,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1001,"start_s":1002,"end_s":1003,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":966,"target_proposition":967,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":1004},722,"17942","So I'm kind of hard-line, because otherwise you don't change things.",3800.96,3805.06,"States a hardline stance to change parents' behavior.",{"idx":1006,"utterance_id":1007,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1008,"start_s":1009,"end_s":1010,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":1011,"topic_label":1012,"target_id":1013,"target_proposition":1014,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":1015},726,"17946","And another point, we need to change the structure, the way many unions operate in education.",3822.8,3831.42,"direitos-trabalhistas","Labor Rights","6e8d0a16-1812-4a6e-b0d5-f8e4878b853c","reform the role of unions in education","Advocates changing how unions operate in the educational area.",{"idx":1017,"utterance_id":1018,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1019,"start_s":1020,"end_s":1021,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":1022,"target_proposition":1023,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":1024},727,"17947","Last year in Minas we wanted — I'll make this very clear — to hold a public hearing to implement civic-military schools throughout the state.",3832.84,3846.7,"8a88e973-f3d5-4938-bf0c-8d321d200303","implement civic-military schools in public schools","States intention to hold public hearings for civic-military implementation.",{"idx":1026,"utterance_id":1027,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1028,"start_s":1029,"end_s":1030,"word_count":367,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":1022,"target_proposition":1023,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":1031},730,"17950","We are going to convert, like, 5, 10% of the schools into civic-military.",3869.38,3875.28,"Declares a plan to convert 5–10% of schools into civic-military schools.",{"idx":1033,"utterance_id":1034,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1035,"start_s":1036,"end_s":1037,"word_count":174,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":1022,"target_proposition":1023,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":142,"rationale":1038},733,"17953","The teachers' union filed a lawsuit to prevent there from being a public hearing.",3883.34,3890.14,"Criticizes a union action that prevented the hearing, advocating implementation.",{"idx":1040,"utterance_id":1041,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1042,"start_s":1043,"end_s":1044,"word_count":246,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":1022,"target_proposition":1023,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":1045},734,"17954","And they got, at the State Court of Auditors, which has nothing to do with education, a decision not to allow the hearing.",3891.66,3900.64,"Reports a TCE decision that blocked the hearing and criticizes the obstruction.",{"idx":1047,"utterance_id":1048,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1049,"start_s":1050,"end_s":1051,"word_count":315,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":1022,"target_proposition":1023,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":1052},735,"17955","But thank God, this week we reversed that situation in the ordinary courts.",3902.44,3907.1,"Reports that the situation was reversed, supporting continuation of the project.",{"idx":1054,"utterance_id":1055,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1056,"start_s":1057,"end_s":1058,"word_count":214,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":1022,"target_proposition":1023,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":1059},738,"17958","I know that many fathers, many mothers, students and even teachers... want the school to be civic-military.",3910.12,3919.18,"Says parents and teachers want civic-military schools.",{"idx":1061,"utterance_id":1062,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1063,"start_s":1064,"end_s":1065,"word_count":150,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":1022,"target_proposition":1023,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":77,"rationale":1066},739,"17959","There will be a military person inside that school accompanying them; it will provide discipline, notions of morality, of civics, which we need in Brazil.",3919.58,3933.14,"Attributes discipline, morals, and civics as benefits of civic-military schools.",{"idx":1068,"utterance_id":1069,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1070,"start_s":1071,"end_s":1072,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":1073,"target_proposition":1074,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":1075},746,"17966","So the educational system needs a change of mentality.",3960.58,3966.22,"ff5a5957-23e2-468b-b2ae-bfa63ad29987","promote mindset change in the education system","Declares the system needs a change in mentality.",{"idx":1077,"utterance_id":1078,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1079,"start_s":1080,"end_s":1081,"word_count":37,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":1082,"target_proposition":1083,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":1084},752,"17972","And only in favor of that paternalistic State and not of those who need to qualify themselves and have moral principles.",4003.04,4011.32,"d8ea17c8-4f20-4bbe-85b2-83688840b824","combat clientelism and benefit-dependency practices","Criticizes a paternalistic state and advocates accountability and autonomy.",{"idx":1086,"utterance_id":1087,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1088,"start_s":1089,"end_s":1090,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":1091,"target_proposition":1092,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":1093},754,"17974","People need a different mental model — that working is worthwhile.",4021.46,4027.16,"4fba8cff-aa9e-4223-8cd9-05556ec04d70","promote a work culture and value qualification","Supports a mindset where working and getting qualified is worthwhile.",{"idx":1095,"utterance_id":1096,"speaker_name":417,"text":1097,"start_s":1098,"end_s":1099,"word_count":923,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":1022,"target_proposition":1023,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":123,"rationale":1100},759,"17979","No, I found it interesting, I thought it a good alternative, perhaps a good alternative to some, because... I studied at a military school, Bruno studied there too.",4043.66,4052.52,"Says he is a good alternative and that he studied at a military school.",{"idx":1102,"utterance_id":1103,"speaker_name":417,"text":1104,"start_s":1105,"end_s":1106,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":1107,"target_proposition":1108,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":1109},764,"17984","Now a single person inside the school won't make that much difference, I think.",4058.54,4062.46,"69895114-df7d-4fc1-ae60-b582b3b6f21f","increase military presence in civic-military schools","Says one person alone will not make a difference, advocating for more personnel.",{"idx":1111,"utterance_id":1112,"speaker_name":417,"text":1113,"start_s":1114,"end_s":1115,"word_count":214,"topic_slug":28,"topic_label":25,"target_id":1116,"target_proposition":1117,"stance":133,"stance_confidence":865,"rationale":1118},795,"18015","So everything depends on the frame of reference and in fact there is no space for the right at the public university.",4146.42,4153.6,"a24f5888-f18b-4430-9502-0851e9f30160","promote ideological plurality in public universities","Reports a lack of space for the right on campus, stating it as a fact.",{"idx":1120,"utterance_id":1121,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1122,"start_s":1123,"end_s":1124,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":1125,"topic_label":1126,"target_id":1127,"target_proposition":1128,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":1129},813,"18033","Well, I'm talking to Bruno, who I think understands business — which you follow — and institutions.",4237.42,4245.88,"processo-eleitoral","Electoral Process","edb061b9-2088-450d-aa94-4d90c39cce45","support candidacies of managers without political careers","Advocates managerial leadership and new ideas instead of career politicians.",{"idx":1131,"utterance_id":1132,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1133,"start_s":1134,"end_s":1135,"word_count":344,"topic_slug":34,"topic_label":30,"target_id":1136,"target_proposition":1137,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":1138},856,"18076","One thing I haven't mentioned, which I want to contribute a lot to during my pre-campaign and campaign, is the debate.",4428.72,4433.88,"2c55d1f6-1afc-4de5-917f-cb99c874126b","incorporate topics debated in the electoral campaign","Promises to contribute to the debate and present ideas during the pre-campaign.",{"idx":1140,"utterance_id":1141,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1142,"start_s":1143,"end_s":1144,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":519,"topic_label":520,"target_id":521,"target_proposition":522,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":96,"rationale":1145},859,"18079","Everything you spend, you have to show.",4438.86,4440.44,"Asks why the president's credit card cannot be shown.",{"idx":1147,"utterance_id":1148,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":1149,"start_s":1150,"end_s":1151,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":1152,"topic_label":1153,"target_id":1154,"target_proposition":1155,"stance":76,"stance_confidence":153,"rationale":1156},878,"18098","You need discipline, you need a long-term plan; 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