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A chegada do saneamento básico para milhões de paulistas
41 classified statements · 1 politicians · December 1, 2025 · 6 min
Statements by Tarcisio. 41 excerpts classified by topic and stance. Topics: Privatizations and Economic Policy, Sanitation, Environmental Policy, Regulatory Policy.
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Classified statements
Excerpts classified by topic and stance. This is not the full transcript of the video.
ForTarcisio
0:00
About: privatize state-owned companies
You know that facing opposition is part of it when there's a privatization, right?
Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence States that confronting opposition is part of privatizing → defends privatization.
ForTarcisio
0:04
About: privatize state-owned companies
It's our job description — we're really going to take it on.
Why it was classified this way · 82% confidence Says it is their role to face resistance to privatization (explicit support).
ForTarcisio
0:09
About: privatize state-owned companies
The crowd that's stuck in the Stone Age and, man, says you can't privatize.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence Criticizes opponents and counters claims that privatization is impossible → defends privatization.
ForTarcisio
0:13
About: privatize state-owned companies
We faced 51 lawsuits related to the privatization of Sabesp.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Claims their own action ('Nós enfrentamos 51 ações') in favor of the privatization of Sabesp.
ForTarcisio
0:19
About: privatize state-owned companies
But we organized ourselves well for that.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence States they organized themselves to face opposition to privatization (implicit support).
ForTarcisio
0:22
About: privatize state-owned companies
We talked a lot with the Public Prosecutor's Office, we talked a lot with the Judiciary, we talked a lot with the Court of Accounts, because we knew there was that opposition and we knew we would win, because we had the argument.
Why it was classified this way · 83% confidence Describes actions with public bodies to enable privatization (claim of strategy).
ForTarcisio
0:31
About: privatize state-owned companies
And we created a model that really is a model — it's no coincidence this model was awarded in the United States, was awarded in the United Kingdom; Sabesp was chosen as last year's best follow-on, because it's a smart model.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence Points to international awards for the model used in the privatization, defending it.
ForTarcisio
0:43
About: develop a regional, basin-based program to universalize sanitation
And we've been doing reputation research on Sabesp to see if people are noticing the improvement — and they are.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence Claims their own research shows improvement after sanitation measures.
NeutralTarcisio
0:53
About: reduce pollution and organic load in urban rivers
Look, the pollution slick on the Tietê shrank by 34 kilometers in one year.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Reports a reduction in the area of pollution (statistic/description).
NeutralTarcisio
0:58
About: privatize state-owned companies
And now we've already had a year of privatization; we can say a few things, one year on.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence States a temporal fact ('um ano de privatização') without proposing any new change.
ForTarcisio
1:05
About: develop a regional, basin-based program to universalize sanitation
Imagine that by the end of this year we'll reach one million customers who have received sewer connections, collection and treatment.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Projects a goal of one million connected customers — a defense of universalization.
ForTarcisio
1:14
About: develop a regional, basin-based program to universalize sanitation
One million customers, and we're talking about 3 to 4 million people.
Why it was classified this way · 82% confidence Expands the scale of expected beneficiaries, reiterating commitment to universalization.
NeutralTarcisio
1:17
About: develop a regional, basin-based program to universalize sanitation
who didn't have sewage collection and treatment in the state of São Paulo, which is the richest state in Brazil.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence States that millions lacked sewage collection before (problem description).
NeutralTarcisio
1:23
About: expand sewage treatment in Guarulhos
People don't know, but the city of Guarulhos, which is the second largest city in the state, until very recently treated 2% of its sewage.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence Provides historical statistics on sewage coverage (report).
ForTarcisio
1:37
About: increase municipal basic sanitation coverage
By the end of this year it'll be treating 45% of sewage.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Projects increased coverage by the end of the year (goal defended).
ForTarcisio
1:40
About: increase municipal basic sanitation coverage
By the end of next year it'll be treating 78% of sewage.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Projects greater coverage in the following year — explicit support for expansion.
ForTarcisio
1:56
About: develop a regional, basin-based program to universalize sanitation
This year they're treating 55%; by 2029 it will be universalized.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence States current coverage and reiterates future universalization (defends the plan).
ForTarcisio
2:02
About: develop a regional, basin-based program to universalize sanitation
The city of São Paulo treats 83% of the sewage it collects, but note — of what it collects, not of the total sewage generated, because the previous contract didn't cover the consolidated informal settlements; it didn't reach the favelas, and now we're going to reach them because we're bringing sewage to everyone.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Contrasts the previous contract with a new goal of reaching informal settlements (clear support).
ForTarcisio
2:20
About: change regulatory methodology to calculate tariffs based on investments made
For example, the first important regulatory change: we moved from a forward-looking logic to a backward-looking logic.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Reports a concrete regulatory change in the first person (defends the adjustment).
ForTarcisio
2:28
About: change regulatory methodology to calculate tariffs based on investments made
In other words, today I only include in the tariff, and only incorporate into the asset base, what has actually been invested.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence Explains the technical rule adopted — claims the measure as their practice.
ForTarcisio
2:37
About: reduce initial tariffs through regulatory changes
This is an important change and it allowed us a tariff reduction at the outset.
Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence States that the regulatory change allowed an initial tariff reduction (defense).
ForTarcisio
2:43
About: encourage household sewer connections with social tariffs and discounts
I needed to align incentives; I needed to convince people to let us into their homes to make a sewer connection, even knowing that later on there will be a charge.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Specifies the use of social tariffs and discounts to overcome resistance and encourage connections.
ForTarcisio
3:23
About: maintain minority shareholding and reinvest dividends in the company to reduce tariffs
That's the logic behind us not making a full exit from the company at this moment.
Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence States the choice not to fully exit and to maintain a stake (decision defended).
ForTarcisio
3:30
About: maintain minority shareholding and reinvest dividends in the company to reduce tariffs
We... remain a shareholder of Sabesp, but we ceased to be the controlling shareholder.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Declares remaining a shareholder but not a controlling one — claims a strategic choice.
ForTarcisio
3:35
About: allocate public funds to recapitalize loss-making state-owned companies
And we reinvest 100% of the State's dividend into the company.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Explicitly states a 100% contribution of dividends to the company (action defended).
ForTarcisio
3:42
About: allocate public funds to recapitalize loss-making state-owned companies
Only that my dividend I am reinvesting in the company.
Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence Reiterates that the state's dividends are injected into the company (defends the measure).
ForTarcisio
3:44
About: dampen tariff impact through state reinvestment
And thus I hold the tariff without loss of value for my private partner.
Why it was classified this way · 87% confidence Explains a reinvestment mechanism to hold tariffs without harming the private partner.
ForTarcisio
3:56
About: maintain moderate tariffs for sanitation services
So, I'm going to work with a tariff curve that will always be lower than that tariff curve of Sabesp's original business plan, which was to invest 55–56 billion until 2033.
Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence States they will make more investments with a lower tariff curve (model defended).
ForTarcisio
4:07
About: privatize state-owned companies
If we're going to do 70 billion until 2029, with a tariff curve that will always be lower, because we are cushioning it, then it's the only case... that you will see where the citizen participates in the result of a company in which the State has capital, in terms of affordability.
Why it was classified this way · 84% confidence Presents the model as a unique case where citizens share in the outcome — defends privatization.
ForTarcisio
4:23
About: share state management gains with consumers via tariff reductions
So, I am sharing my gain with the citizen; there is no other case like this.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence States sharing gains with citizens through affordability (defends the policy).
ForTarcisio
4:28
About: privatize state-owned companies
It's not the left that does this, it's the right.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence Attributes the practice to the right and defends the privatization model (ideological stance).
NeutralTarcisio
4:53
About: evaluate the economic and social externalities of sanitation
It's even hard to monetize the externalities that gains from basic sanitation will generate.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Notes difficulty in monetizing externalities — descriptive comment about benefits.
ForTarcisio
5:00
About: form municipal consortia for sanitation concessions
And for those municipalities that are not in Sabesp, we created Universaliz.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Presents the 'Universaliz' program to structure concessions and deliver sanitation (own initiative).
ForTarcisio
5:04
About: form municipal consortia for sanitation concessions
That is, we are arranging the municipalities into clusters, structuring concession projects to... also deliver basic sanitation to those municipalities.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Describes arrangement of municipalities in clusters and concession projects (defends the model).
ForTarcisio
5:14
About: grant provision of basic sanitation services to private operators
Because we can't remain eternally dependent on municipal autarchies, which are extremely inefficient and which end up taking away from municipalities the capacity to make investments, especially those investments in network resilience, network replacement, network sensorization, which is what we need.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence Criticizes municipal autarchies and advocates for concessions and more efficient private management.
ForTarcisio
5:31
About: increase water resilience through investments in sanitation
So, we have a plan here that is structured to give us water resilience over the years.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence States having a structured plan to provide water resilience (explicit support for the plan).
ForTarcisio
5:37
About: privatize state-owned companies
So, Sabesp is a great success story.
Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence Defines Sabesp as 'case de sucesso', defending the privatization carried out.
ForTarcisio
5:40
About: privatize state-owned companies
We sold 32% of the shares for 14.7 billion.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Reports sale of 32% for R$14.7 billion — claims a positive result of the privatization.
ForTarcisio
5:44
About: maintain the State's residual stake in Sabesp to generate value
Today, the 18% that we kept, the remaining 18%, are worth 17 billion.
Why it was classified this way · 84% confidence States that the remaining 18% were worth more, defending maintaining the stake.
ForTarcisio
5:49
About: privatize state-owned companies
So, the 18% of shares we kept are worth more than the 32% we sold.
Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence Compares the value of the stakes as evidence of the privatization operation's success.
ForTarcisio
5:53
About: privatize state-owned companies
And we said it would happen, but it happened much faster than we imagined — this happened in one year.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence Reiterates that the result occurred faster than expected, reaffirming support for privatization.
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