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hemos invitado a otros dos aspirantes al Planalto (Palacio Presidencial).",0.06,3.62,11,false,{"idx":181,"utterance_id":182,"speaker_name":174,"text":183,"start_s":184,"end_s":185,"word_count":186,"indexable":179},1,"23157","Están aquí con nosotros el exdiputado federal y exministro que se presenta por Democracia Cristiana, Aldo Rebelo.",3.66,9.96,17,{"idx":188,"utterance_id":189,"speaker_name":174,"text":190,"start_s":191,"end_s":192,"word_count":193,"indexable":179},2,"23158","Gracias, Aldo, por estar con nosotros aquí esta noche.",10.3,12.72,8,{"idx":195,"utterance_id":196,"speaker_name":174,"text":197,"start_s":198,"end_s":199,"word_count":200,"indexable":179},3,"23159","Y también el fundador del MBL y precandidato por Missão, Renan Santos.",13.2,17.64,12,{"idx":202,"utterance_id":203,"speaker_name":174,"text":204,"start_s":205,"end_s":206,"word_count":207,"indexable":179},4,"23160","También agradezco, Renan, por aceptar nuestra invitación y estar aquí con nosotros en el 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que te presentaras también al público que aún no te conoce, y que, de cierta forma, indicaras dos o tres propuestas prioritarias que pondrías sobre la mesa.",31.6,44.3,39,{"idx":4,"utterance_id":240,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":241,"start_s":242,"end_s":243,"word_count":244,"indexable":179},"23166","Bueno, de hecho, es mi primera vez aquí; quería agradecer a Band, agradecer a todo el equipo presente, agradecer a Aldo.",45.02,50.4,21,{"idx":178,"utterance_id":246,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":247,"start_s":248,"end_s":249,"word_count":43,"indexable":179},"23167","Bueno, mi nombre es Renan Santos, tengo 42 años, nací en São Paulo, vengo de una familia de clase media, soy uno de los fundadores del Movimiento Brasil 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una operación útil en la lucha contra la corrupción, pero que fue desmontada posteriormente por el señor Jair Bolsonaro, su familia y el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal).",61.42,73.66,36,"judiciario-combate-a-corrupcao","Poder Judicial \u002F Lucha contra la corrupción","2bbf647d-7d62-4cd3-bf3c-3b89fa787be7","combatir la corrupción y responsabilizar a los implicados","a_favor",0.88,"declara haber 'lutado pelo apoio à Lava Jato' y critica su desmantelamiento.",true,{"idx":276,"utterance_id":277,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":278,"start_s":279,"end_s":280,"word_count":281,"indexable":179},14,"23170","Con base en la lucha que tuvimos no solo contra la corrupción, sino en la lucha por un Brasil más libre, un Brasil en el que... trabajar y producir, en el que caminar por la calle libre del crimen organizado debería ser una 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mundo.",108.24,109.92,{"idx":244,"utterance_id":324,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":325,"start_s":326,"end_s":327,"word_count":328,"indexable":179},"23177","Y nuestro objetivo, por eso incluso el nombre de nuestro partido es Missão, es en 30 años colocar a Brasil en la mesa con China, Rusia, Estados Unidos e India, determinando qué es importante en el mundo.",110.36,118.46,37,{"idx":59,"utterance_id":330,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":331,"start_s":332,"end_s":333,"word_count":306,"indexable":179},"23178","Tenemos territorio, tenemos población, tenemos recursos y lo que nos falta en la práctica es imaginación.",118.58,124.22,{"idx":21,"utterance_id":335,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":336,"start_s":337,"end_s":338,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},"23179","¿Y cuáles son las propuestas dentro de esa 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Bolsonaro.",197.54,205.98,"candidatura-e-campanha","Candidatura y Campaña","4b135e9b-c5ed-4a68-9f19-0ba5175f5bf1","buscar votantes de la familia Bolsonaro","contra",0.9,"dice explícitamente 'eu não vou partir... da premissa que eu preciso ficar preso a buscar eleitores'.",{"idx":328,"utterance_id":435,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":436,"start_s":437,"end_s":438,"word_count":340,"indexable":179},"23193","Esa estrategia la dejo para Zema, la dejo para Caiado, que están haciendo demostraciones públicas de que les gusta mucho Bolsonaro.",206.2,211.04,{"idx":169,"utterance_id":440,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":441,"start_s":442,"end_s":443,"word_count":306,"indexable":179},"23194","Caiado dijo, incluso, que lo primero que hará como presidente es beneficiar a los Bolsonaro.",211.46,215.56,{"idx":238,"utterance_id":445,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":446,"start_s":447,"end_s":448,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},"23195","Y básicamente... parte de su campaña...",215.92,217.74,{"idx":281,"utterance_id":450,"speaker_name":174,"text":451,"start_s":452,"end_s":453,"word_count":195,"indexable":179},"23196","¿Decís amnistía?",217.78,218.62,{"idx":455,"utterance_id":456,"speaker_name":174,"text":457,"start_s":458,"end_s":459,"word_count":188,"indexable":179},41,"23197","Amnistía, no.",218.96,219.46,{"idx":366,"utterance_id":461,"speaker_name":174,"text":462,"start_s":463,"end_s":464,"word_count":178,"topic_slug":465,"topic_label":466,"target_id":467,"target_proposition":468,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":469,"indexable":274},"23198","Lo primero que voy a hacer como presidente es amnistiar.",219.54,220.8,"justica-criminal","Justicia penal","240dfea6-6c74-4133-ad9b-b27ddc72a320","conceder amnistía a los responsables de la invasión de edificios públicos","afirma claramente 'a primeira coisa que eu vou fazer ... é anistia'.",{"idx":471,"utterance_id":472,"speaker_name":174,"text":473,"start_s":474,"end_s":475,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},43,"23199","¿Lo harías, si fueras elegido?",220.84,221.62,{"idx":477,"utterance_id":478,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":479,"start_s":480,"end_s":481,"word_count":195,"indexable":179},44,"23200","Dosimetría, no amnistía.",221.72,222.92,{"idx":483,"utterance_id":484,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":485,"start_s":486,"end_s":487,"word_count":220,"topic_slug":465,"topic_label":466,"target_id":467,"target_proposition":468,"stance":431,"stance_confidence":349,"rationale":488,"indexable":274},45,"23201","Dosimetría, que es lo que votamos favorablemente en el Congreso, pero no amnistía.",223.46,227.78,"niega la amnistía diciendo 'dosimetria... mas não anistia'.",{"idx":490,"utterance_id":491,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":492,"start_s":493,"end_s":494,"word_count":222,"topic_slug":495,"topic_label":496,"target_id":497,"target_proposition":498,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":499,"rationale":500,"indexable":179},46,"23202","Esas personas, incluido Bolsonaro, cometieron delitos.",228.3,230.26,"investigacao-e-responsabilizacao-judicial","Investigación y responsabilización judicial","1036d3f9-7752-4edb-a5bd-c76dcfc0c35b","investigar y castigar delitos cometidos por agentes políticos",0.85,"afirma que 'inclusive o Bolsonaro, cometeram crimes', justificando la responsabilización.",{"idx":502,"utterance_id":503,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":504,"start_s":505,"end_s":506,"word_count":276,"topic_slug":495,"topic_label":496,"target_id":497,"target_proposition":498,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":507,"indexable":274},47,"23203","Podemos discutir los vicios formales involucrados allí, pero hubo comisión de delitos.",230.52,233.92,"reconoce debates formales, pero reafirma que hubo comisión de un delito.",{"idx":509,"utterance_id":510,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":511,"start_s":512,"end_s":513,"word_count":293,"topic_slug":514,"topic_label":515,"target_id":516,"target_proposition":517,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":272,"rationale":518,"indexable":274},48,"23204","y siempre les digo a los bolsonaristas: si fuera el MST el que invadiera los edificios públicos, ¿qué dirían ellos?",233.98,238.48,"seguranca-juridica","Seguridad jurídica","44f8557a-35af-45c6-88d3-0d763553cc86","hacer cumplir las leyes y la Constitución","cuestiona un trato distinto con ejemplo hipotético del MST.",{"idx":520,"utterance_id":521,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":522,"start_s":523,"end_s":524,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},49,"23205","¿Pedirían amnistía para esas personas?",238.64,240,{"idx":526,"utterance_id":527,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":528,"start_s":529,"end_s":530,"word_count":207,"topic_slug":514,"topic_label":515,"target_id":516,"target_proposition":517,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":531,"indexable":274},50,"23206","El delito es delito, no importa si estás de rojo o de amarillo.",240.38,242.56,"afirma normativamente 'Crime é crime, não importa se você está de vermelho ou amarelo'.",{"idx":533,"utterance_id":534,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":535,"start_s":536,"end_s":537,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},51,"23207","Dicho eso, ¿estoy recorriendo Brasil?",243.58,245.58,{"idx":539,"utterance_id":540,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":541,"start_s":542,"end_s":543,"word_count":244,"indexable":179},52,"23208","Y estoy hablando de problemas concretos de la gente y presentando soluciones concretas justamente en el corazón del electorado de cada uno.",245.9,251.4,{"idx":545,"utterance_id":546,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":547,"start_s":548,"end_s":549,"word_count":374,"indexable":179},53,"23209","Fui tan bien recibido en Maranhão, que supuestamente es un bastión electoral del lulismo, como lo fui en Santa Catarina ahora, que es bastión electoral del bolsonarismo.",251.96,260.86,{"idx":551,"utterance_id":552,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":553,"start_s":554,"end_s":555,"word_count":178,"indexable":179},54,"23210","Y me ocupé de problemas locales y crecí en ambos lugares.",261.22,263.66,{"idx":557,"utterance_id":558,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":559,"start_s":560,"end_s":561,"word_count":186,"indexable":179},55,"23211","Fui, según Google Trends, la persona más buscada en Maranhão la semana antepasada.",264.06,268.64,{"idx":563,"utterance_id":564,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":565,"start_s":566,"end_s":567,"word_count":193,"indexable":179},56,"23212","Entonces, hay una respuesta que podemos dar.",269.18,272.76,{"idx":569,"utterance_id":570,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":571,"start_s":572,"end_s":573,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},57,"23213","Hay un cansancio con la polarización y las encuestas nos muestran un",273.14,275.72,{"idx":575,"utterance_id":576,"speaker_name":174,"text":577,"start_s":578,"end_s":579,"word_count":181,"indexable":179},58,"23214","recall,",275.86,276.2,{"idx":581,"utterance_id":582,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":583,"start_s":584,"end_s":585,"word_count":266,"indexable":179},59,"23215","es decir, el top of mind, el nombre que viene a la cabeza de las personas cuando imaginan elecciones, sigue siendo el apellido Bolsonaro, ahora con Flávio, y el nombre Lula, con el actual presidente de la república.",276.76,286.98,{"idx":587,"utterance_id":588,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":589,"start_s":590,"end_s":591,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},60,"23216","Pero los más jóvenes que ya están al margen de eso, están buscando otras alternativas.",287.42,291.16,{"idx":593,"utterance_id":594,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":595,"start_s":596,"end_s":597,"word_count":32,"indexable":179},61,"23217","Cuando te posicionas entre los más jóvenes, estoy con más de 20% según la encuesta Atlas, y cuando separas a los hombres jóvenes, estoy con más de 30%.",292.34,299.42,{"idx":599,"utterance_id":600,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":601,"start_s":602,"end_s":603,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":604,"topic_label":605,"target_id":606,"target_proposition":607,"stance":258,"stance_confidence":259,"rationale":608,"indexable":179},62,"23218","El partido que monté, el Partido Missão, tiene 5,8% de preferencia entre los brasileños y cuando lo analizo entre los más jóvenes llega casi al 30%.",299.54,308.08,"pesquisa-de-opiniao","Encuesta de opinión","d43cd2f0-b193-4ec4-83b2-9c533bc6f5e7","aumentar la preferencia electoral del partido Missão entre los jóvenes","relata resultados de una encuesta sin proponer acción inmediata.",{"idx":610,"utterance_id":611,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":612,"start_s":613,"end_s":614,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},63,"23219","¿Cuál es el mensaje de eso?",308.54,309.6,{"idx":616,"utterance_id":617,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":618,"start_s":619,"end_s":620,"word_count":366,"topic_slug":24,"topic_label":20,"target_id":621,"target_proposition":622,"stance":258,"stance_confidence":623,"rationale":624,"indexable":179},64,"23220","Las personas que no están, digamos, atrapadas en un debate público que desde hace seis años solo habla de Bolsonaro, Lula y el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal), quieren soluciones para la seguridad pública, la ausencia de empleo, la falta de expectativas, la total y completa ausencia de infraestructura urbana.",309.94,323.96,"b847b45c-b0e5-462b-991c-9acbcbcfaefd","priorizar y fortalecer políticas de seguridad pública para recuperar el territorio",0.65,"relata demandas electorales ('querem soluções para segurança pública, emprego') sin proponer un plan.",{"idx":626,"utterance_id":627,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":628,"start_s":629,"end_s":630,"word_count":178,"indexable":179},65,"23221","Y esas personas no van a decir: 'ah, ¿cuál es el problema de eso?'",324.58,326.72,{"idx":632,"utterance_id":633,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":634,"start_s":635,"end_s":636,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},66,"23222","«Ah, el problema es Lula.»",326.96,328.04,{"idx":638,"utterance_id":639,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":640,"start_s":641,"end_s":642,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},67,"23223","«No, el problema es Bolsonaro.»",328.46,329.48,{"idx":644,"utterance_id":645,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":646,"start_s":647,"end_s":648,"word_count":15,"indexable":179},68,"23224","Entonces, cuando estaba en Maranhão, encontrando carreteras llenas de baches y viendo a la gente compartir comida con los buitres, como vi en Pinheiro, tierra de Sarney, la gente no estaba allí, ¿sabes?",329.92,338.34,{"idx":650,"utterance_id":651,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":652,"start_s":653,"end_s":654,"word_count":193,"indexable":179},69,"23225","«Ah, eso es culpa de Lula, de Bolsonaro.»",338.42,339.56,{"idx":656,"utterance_id":657,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":658,"start_s":659,"end_s":660,"word_count":186,"indexable":179},70,"23226","La gente dice: '¿Cómo vas a resolver el buitre que está al lado de mi casa?'",339.6,342.24,{"idx":662,"utterance_id":663,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":664,"start_s":665,"end_s":666,"word_count":306,"indexable":179},71,"23227","Y al tratar esos temas, entonces sí, entra la cuestión de comunicación; de manera inteligente, crecemos.",342.74,346.9,{"idx":668,"utterance_id":669,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":670,"start_s":671,"end_s":672,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},72,"23228","Entonces, mi objetivo es hacer eso.",347.32,348.62,{"idx":674,"utterance_id":675,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":676,"start_s":677,"end_s":678,"word_count":306,"topic_slug":427,"topic_label":428,"target_id":679,"target_proposition":680,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":499,"rationale":681,"indexable":274},73,"23229","Voy a entrar en el corazón del bolsonarista y en el corazón del lulista hablando de problemas concretos para ellos.",348.7,353.22,"2003a003-ab44-43fc-bd7b-ca9ce215ec13","enfocar la campaña en problemas concretos como seguridad, empleo e infraestructura urbana","declara 'eu vou entrar no coração' tratando temas concretos como estrategia de campaña.",{"idx":683,"utterance_id":684,"speaker_name":174,"text":685,"start_s":686,"end_s":687,"word_count":233,"topic_slug":345,"topic_label":346,"target_id":688,"target_proposition":689,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":690,"indexable":274},74,"23230","Es necesario que haya una lucha organizada e integrada.",353.36,357.12,"f589ec16-576e-4f8b-9b40-17940f63b713","organizar y integrar el combate al crimen organizado","afirma 'É preciso que haja um combate organizado e integrado' defendiendo coordinación.",{"idx":692,"utterance_id":693,"speaker_name":174,"text":694,"start_s":695,"end_s":696,"word_count":200,"indexable":179},75,"23231","contra el crimen organizado, que está más que integrado, organizado, etc.",358.64,362.4,{"idx":698,"utterance_id":699,"speaker_name":174,"text":700,"start_s":701,"end_s":702,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},76,"23232","Las fuerzas legales no lo están; están fragmentadas.",363.84,366.48,{"idx":704,"utterance_id":705,"speaker_name":174,"text":706,"start_s":707,"end_s":708,"word_count":312,"indexable":179},77,"23233","Hay un proyecto que no unió al país, no unió a las dirigencias políticas, y mucho menos a los gobiernos.",366.8,374.88,{"idx":710,"utterance_id":711,"speaker_name":174,"text":712,"start_s":713,"end_s":714,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},78,"23234","Y sin esa integración, esa lucha no tendrá resultados positivos.",375.52,380.62,{"idx":716,"utterance_id":717,"speaker_name":174,"text":718,"start_s":719,"end_s":720,"word_count":312,"indexable":179},79,"23235","¿Cómo ves la dificultad política, pregunto a ambos, para juntar todas las fuerzas del país?",380.88,386.7,{"idx":722,"utterance_id":723,"speaker_name":174,"text":724,"start_s":725,"end_s":726,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},80,"23236","Los gobernadores y la Unión.",387.28,388.8,{"idx":728,"utterance_id":729,"speaker_name":174,"text":730,"start_s":731,"end_s":732,"word_count":220,"topic_slug":345,"topic_label":346,"target_id":733,"target_proposition":734,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":349,"rationale":735,"indexable":274},81,"23237","Es evidente que alguien tiene que coordinar eso; tiene que ser la Unión.",389.4,392,"7a479a01-97cc-498f-a119-2698458ddef4","hacer que el gobierno federal coordine el combate al crimen organizado con apoyo de los estados","dice explícitamente 'tem que ser a União' y que 'o governo federal deve coordenar'.",{"idx":737,"utterance_id":738,"speaker_name":174,"text":739,"start_s":740,"end_s":741,"word_count":306,"indexable":179},82,"23238","El gobierno federal debe coordinar el gran combate al crimen organizado en Brasil, con el apoyo de los Estados.",392.84,399.28,{"idx":743,"utterance_id":744,"speaker_name":174,"text":745,"start_s":746,"end_s":747,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},83,"23239","Me refiero a la estructura que el país tiene.",399.8,404.42,{"idx":749,"utterance_id":750,"speaker_name":174,"text":751,"start_s":752,"end_s":753,"word_count":200,"indexable":179},84,"23240","Sin esa estructura en su plenitud, será difícil ganar esa guerra.",404.68,409.2,{"idx":755,"utterance_id":756,"speaker_name":174,"text":757,"start_s":758,"end_s":759,"word_count":293,"indexable":179},85,"23241","Quería preguntar cómo ves las cuestiones políticas que impiden la unión de las fuerzas contra el crimen organizado.",409.66,416.6,{"idx":761,"utterance_id":762,"speaker_name":174,"text":763,"start_s":764,"end_s":765,"word_count":220,"indexable":179},86,"23242","Un poco de lo que dijo Mitri, de esa integración también entre las fuerzas.",416.82,419.88,{"idx":767,"utterance_id":768,"speaker_name":174,"text":769,"start_s":770,"end_s":771,"word_count":178,"indexable":179},87,"23243","Y a veces falta incluso voluntad política entre esos entes.",420.28,422.98,{"idx":773,"utterance_id":774,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":775,"start_s":776,"end_s":777,"word_count":215,"topic_slug":24,"topic_label":20,"target_id":778,"target_proposition":779,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":780,"rationale":781,"indexable":179},88,"23244","Pero ese es el problema principal.",423.12,424.62,"7bc1b399-e482-4bf9-b3af-3a5133c828e1","garantizar voluntad política estatal para enfrentar al crimen organizado",0.8,"atribuye la falla a la 'falta de vontade política' en las fuerzas estatales y defiende acción.",{"idx":783,"utterance_id":784,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":785,"start_s":786,"end_s":787,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},89,"23245","La realidad es que las fuerzas de seguridad en los estados saben qué hacer.",424.86,429.42,{"idx":789,"utterance_id":790,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":791,"start_s":792,"end_s":793,"word_count":220,"indexable":179},90,"23246","Estuve en Ceará y tenemos ciudades enteras tomadas por el crimen organizado.",429.48,433.08,{"idx":795,"utterance_id":796,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":797,"start_s":798,"end_s":799,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},91,"23247","No hay, repito, ya incluso me han procesado dos veces por el gobernador de Ceará.",433.46,436.9,{"idx":801,"utterance_id":802,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":803,"start_s":804,"end_s":805,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},92,"23248","No hay voluntad política para resolver esto.",437.38,438.94,{"idx":807,"utterance_id":808,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":809,"start_s":810,"end_s":811,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},93,"23249","No hay ninguna voluntad.",439.48,440.26,{"idx":813,"utterance_id":814,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":815,"start_s":816,"end_s":817,"word_count":21,"indexable":179},94,"23250","Y sospecho, y puedo recibir un tercer proceso, que el gobierno de Ceará es especialmente leniente con el avance del Comando Vermelho.",440.72,445.96,{"idx":819,"utterance_id":820,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":821,"start_s":822,"end_s":823,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},95,"23251","Hay gobernadores que no tienen voluntad política de resolver esto.",446.44,448.9,{"idx":304,"utterance_id":825,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":826,"start_s":827,"end_s":828,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},"23252","En Bahía está ocurriendo lo mismo con Jerônimo.",449.5,451.34,{"idx":830,"utterance_id":831,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":832,"start_s":833,"end_s":834,"word_count":366,"indexable":179},97,"23253","Las fuerzas policiales allí se quejan: mira, yo quiero actuar, sabemos dónde hay áreas tomadas por el crimen organizado, disponemos de fuerzas, no es difícil intercambiar disparos y resolverlo, no es difícil recuperar esa área, pero no podemos hacer nada.",451.86,464.18,{"idx":836,"utterance_id":837,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":838,"start_s":839,"end_s":840,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},98,"23254","No hay mando, no hay voluntad.",464.58,465.86,{"idx":842,"utterance_id":843,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":844,"start_s":845,"end_s":846,"word_count":366,"indexable":179},99,"23255","Una de las cosas más absurdas que vi en Ceará fue durante la toma de una ciudad, Santa Quitéria: estaban discutiendo el programa Pena Justa, que iba a liberar a más delincuentes, porque supuestamente las cárceles no estaban en condiciones deseables para esos delincuentes.",466.06,479.22,{"idx":848,"utterance_id":849,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":850,"start_s":851,"end_s":852,"word_count":317,"topic_slug":345,"topic_label":346,"target_id":853,"target_proposition":854,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":349,"rationale":855,"indexable":274},100,"23256","Entonces, lo que el presidente de la república tiene que hacer es, si yo soy elegido presidente, de manera muy clara, el tema que me eligió fue la destrucción del crimen organizado.",479.72,487.66,"7c8cd665-4311-45ab-828e-8088c0bd3729","implementar acciones operativas efectivas contra el crimen organizado","afirma que 'o tema que me elegeu foi a destruição do crime organizado'.",{"idx":857,"utterance_id":858,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":859,"start_s":860,"end_s":861,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},101,"23257","Llevo dos años diciendo esto.",487.7,488.84,{"idx":863,"utterance_id":864,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":865,"start_s":866,"end_s":867,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},102,"23258","Será una elección plebiscitaria.",489.1,490.32,{"idx":869,"utterance_id":870,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":871,"start_s":872,"end_s":873,"word_count":186,"indexable":179},103,"23259","La persona que decidió elegir a Renan Santos decidió elegirme a mí también, y en gran parte por eso.",490.62,495.42,{"idx":875,"utterance_id":876,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":877,"start_s":878,"end_s":879,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":345,"topic_label":346,"target_id":880,"target_proposition":881,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":349,"rationale":882,"indexable":274},104,"23260","Entonces, llegado el momento, los estados que no decidan cooperar, dado que estamos hablando de la... toma de espacios del territorio brasileño, vamos a declarar un estado de defensa específico en esos estados y municipios.",495.78,505.64,"f2bbe28e-a260-496d-b545-b07e05198995","decretar estado de defensa en áreas tomadas por el crimen organizado","propone 'vamos fazer um estado de defesa específico nesses estados e municípios'.",{"idx":884,"utterance_id":885,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":886,"start_s":887,"end_s":888,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},105,"23261","La cooperación tiene que ocurrir.",506.3,507.62,{"idx":890,"utterance_id":891,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":892,"start_s":893,"end_s":894,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},106,"23262","Y ya aviso a algunos estados.",507.94,508.98,{"idx":896,"utterance_id":897,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":898,"start_s":899,"end_s":900,"word_count":188,"indexable":179},107,"23263","Ceará lo necesita.",509.38,510.64,{"idx":902,"utterance_id":903,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":904,"start_s":905,"end_s":906,"word_count":195,"indexable":179},108,"23264","¿Quiere otro estado?",511.1,511.8,{"idx":908,"utterance_id":909,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":910,"start_s":911,"end_s":912,"word_count":188,"indexable":179},109,"23265","Bahía lo necesita.",512.08,512.84,{"idx":914,"utterance_id":915,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":916,"start_s":917,"end_s":918,"word_count":59,"indexable":179},110,"23266","La gente habla mucho de Río de Janeiro, pero el estado de Ceará tiene una situación mucho peor que la carioca.",512.98,517.4,{"idx":920,"utterance_id":921,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":922,"start_s":923,"end_s":924,"word_count":186,"indexable":179},111,"23267","Río de Janeiro es un ejemplo bizarro en muchos sentidos, pero a veces se vuelve anecdótico.",517.86,521.38,{"idx":926,"utterance_id":927,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":928,"start_s":929,"end_s":930,"word_count":220,"indexable":179},112,"23268","La situación, el número de muertos por cada 100 mil habitantes en Ceará...",521.8,524.22,{"idx":932,"utterance_id":933,"speaker_name":174,"text":934,"start_s":935,"end_s":936,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},113,"23269","Los índices son peores.",524.26,525.38,{"idx":938,"utterance_id":939,"speaker_name":174,"text":940,"start_s":941,"end_s":942,"word_count":188,"indexable":179},114,"23270","Mucho peores.",525.54,526.14,{"idx":944,"utterance_id":945,"speaker_name":174,"text":946,"start_s":947,"end_s":948,"word_count":178,"indexable":179},115,"23271","Quizás el número de áreas de dominio sea ese número mayor.",526.18,530.04,{"idx":950,"utterance_id":951,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":952,"start_s":953,"end_s":954,"word_count":312,"indexable":179},116,"23272","Río de Janeiro está más balcanizado, es una facción aquí, otra expulsando a la otra del edificio.",531.16,535.72,{"idx":956,"utterance_id":957,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":958,"start_s":959,"end_s":960,"word_count":312,"indexable":179},117,"23273","Pero el caso en Ceará, se está hablando de tomas monopolistas por parte del Comando Vermelho y facciones auxiliares.",536.08,541.32,{"idx":962,"utterance_id":963,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":964,"start_s":965,"end_s":966,"word_count":490,"indexable":179},118,"23274","Si el gobierno está paralizado, el gobierno tiene que... ser sustituido, entonces la gente va a votar por otro gobierno, o cuando nosotros lleguemos al poder, si ellos deciden no cooperar, declararemos un estado de defensa específico, por un tiempo determinado, para que retomemos esos territorios.",541.72,555.62,{"idx":968,"utterance_id":969,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":970,"start_s":971,"end_s":972,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},119,"23275","Y solo en las áreas específicas.",555.74,557.56,{"idx":974,"utterance_id":975,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":976,"start_s":977,"end_s":978,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},120,"23276","Incluso hay gente que dice, ¿y la democracia?",557.6,559.76,{"idx":980,"utterance_id":981,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":982,"start_s":983,"end_s":984,"word_count":193,"indexable":179},121,"23277","No existe democracia en Santa Quitéria, en Ceará.",559.84,561.84,{"idx":986,"utterance_id":987,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":988,"start_s":989,"end_s":990,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":345,"topic_label":346,"target_id":880,"target_proposition":881,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":991,"indexable":274},122,"23278","Voy a declarar un estado de defensa y voy a utilizar las fuerzas policiales y, si es necesario, las fuerzas de seguridad nacionales, las Fuerzas Armadas, para realizar esas operaciones.",562.28,569.98,"reafirma que 'vou fazer um estado de defesa' y usar fuerzas federales si es necesario.",{"idx":993,"utterance_id":994,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":995,"start_s":996,"end_s":997,"word_count":181,"indexable":179},123,"23279","Punto.",570.38,570.7,{"idx":999,"utterance_id":1000,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1001,"start_s":1002,"end_s":1003,"word_count":276,"topic_slug":345,"topic_label":346,"target_id":347,"target_proposition":348,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":1004,"indexable":274},124,"23280","Vamos a recuperar esos territorios y luego entregar derechos humanos a las personas que lo necesitan.",570.88,575.52,"propone recuperar territorios y 'entregar direitos humanos' a las poblaciones locales.",{"idx":1006,"utterance_id":1007,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1008,"start_s":1009,"end_s":1010,"word_count":244,"topic_slug":345,"topic_label":346,"target_id":1011,"target_proposition":1012,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":272,"rationale":1013,"indexable":274},125,"23281","En el estado actual de las cosas, vuelvo a decir, hay gobernadores que están cooperando, directa o indirectamente, con el avance del crimen.",575.84,582.26,"c181b5f8-2ecc-4088-aa43-03ea663ea50b","garantizar cooperación entre los estados y la Unión en el combate al crimen organizado","afirma que 'existem governadores que não cooperam' y que eso 'precisa acabar'.",{"idx":1015,"utterance_id":1016,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1017,"start_s":1018,"end_s":1019,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},126,"23282","Y eso tiene que terminar.",582.52,583.36,{"idx":1021,"utterance_id":1022,"speaker_name":174,"text":1023,"start_s":1024,"end_s":1025,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},127,"23283","Déjame solo retomar el hilo.",583.64,584.62,{"idx":1027,"utterance_id":1028,"speaker_name":174,"text":1029,"start_s":1030,"end_s":1031,"word_count":312,"indexable":179},128,"23284","Paulo dice, en Santa Quitéria, que él está citando aquí, que es el caso de Ceará, ¿existe... uranio?",584.66,590.32,{"idx":1033,"utterance_id":1034,"speaker_name":174,"text":1035,"start_s":1036,"end_s":1037,"word_count":178,"indexable":179},129,"23285","Una mina de uranio y fosfato lleva 30 años esperando licenciamiento.",590.4,594.98,{"idx":1039,"utterance_id":1040,"speaker_name":174,"text":1041,"start_s":1042,"end_s":1043,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},130,"23286","Es uranio y fosfato.",595.16,596.24,{"idx":1045,"utterance_id":1046,"speaker_name":174,"text":1047,"start_s":1048,"end_s":1049,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},131,"23287","El país importa fosfato.",596.28,597.76,{"idx":1051,"utterance_id":1052,"speaker_name":174,"text":1053,"start_s":1054,"end_s":1055,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":1056,"topic_label":1057,"target_id":1058,"target_proposition":1059,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":272,"rationale":1060,"indexable":274},132,"23288","Hay fosfato allí en Santa Quitéria esperando licencia.",597.82,601.04,"meio-ambiente-infraestrutura","Medio ambiente e infraestructura","cb7f0ad9-6153-4252-b22d-87f805ebcdb6","licenciar y explotar reservas minerales (fosfato\u002Furanio) para generar riqueza local","afirma que hay una mina esperando licenciamiento y que podría generar riqueza.",{"idx":1062,"utterance_id":1063,"speaker_name":174,"text":1064,"start_s":1065,"end_s":1066,"word_count":220,"indexable":179},133,"23289","Ibama, no sé si FUNAI toma alguna medida, Ministerio Público, están interdictando Santa Quitéria.",601.4,606.68,{"idx":1068,"utterance_id":1069,"speaker_name":174,"text":1070,"start_s":1071,"end_s":1072,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},134,"23290","Eso podría generar riqueza para la ciudad, para el Estado y para Brasil.",606.9,609.72,{"idx":1074,"utterance_id":1075,"speaker_name":174,"text":1076,"start_s":1077,"end_s":1078,"word_count":195,"indexable":179},135,"23291","Está allí parado.",609.88,610.44,{"idx":1080,"utterance_id":1081,"speaker_name":174,"text":1082,"start_s":1083,"end_s":1084,"word_count":181,"indexable":179},136,"23292","Exacto.",610.52,610.82,{"idx":1086,"utterance_id":1087,"speaker_name":174,"text":1088,"start_s":1089,"end_s":1090,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},137,"23293","Es más fácil que el Comando Vermelho haga una bomba sucia",610.88,612.84,{"idx":61,"utterance_id":1092,"speaker_name":174,"text":1093,"start_s":1094,"end_s":1095,"word_count":200,"indexable":179},"23294","con uranio, que nosotros produzcamos fertilizantes para nuestra agricultura.",613.2,616.12,{"idx":1097,"utterance_id":1098,"speaker_name":174,"text":1099,"start_s":1100,"end_s":1101,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},139,"23295","Esa es la broma nacional que estamos viviendo.",616.38,618.18,{"idx":1103,"utterance_id":1104,"speaker_name":174,"text":1105,"start_s":1106,"end_s":1107,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":1108,"topic_label":1109,"target_id":1110,"target_proposition":1111,"stance":258,"stance_confidence":623,"rationale":1112,"indexable":179},140,"23296","Hoy las Fuerzas Armadas se quejan mucho de la falta de recursos.",618.4,620.9,"soberania-nacional","Soberanía nacional","8fd0ec78-da19-49df-a1be-20b4af1ee204","reforzar la capacidad de defensa para garantizar la soberanía brasileña","relata quejas de las Fuerzas Armadas sobre la falta de recursos sin proponer un plan concreto.",{"idx":1114,"utterance_id":1115,"speaker_name":174,"text":1116,"start_s":1117,"end_s":1118,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},141,"23297","Hace 20 años, cuando existía un orden global con la ONU y",621.3,625.4,{"idx":1120,"utterance_id":1121,"speaker_name":174,"text":1122,"start_s":1123,"end_s":1124,"word_count":181,"indexable":179},142,"23298","etc.,",625.44,625.66,{"idx":1126,"utterance_id":1127,"speaker_name":174,"text":1128,"start_s":1129,"end_s":1130,"word_count":328,"indexable":179},143,"23299","se imaginaba que, bueno, sería difícil que alguien entrara aquí, invadiera; las tierras raras estaban en discusión, Brasil es la segunda mayor reserva del mundo, tenemos la Amazonia Azul, entonces... esa discusión no estaba tan latente.",626.44,638.1,{"idx":50,"utterance_id":1132,"speaker_name":174,"text":1133,"start_s":1134,"end_s":1135,"word_count":483,"topic_slug":1108,"topic_label":1109,"target_id":1136,"target_proposition":1137,"stance":258,"stance_confidence":259,"rationale":1138,"indexable":179},"23300","Frente a un presidente ahora, Donald Trump, que intervino para apresar a Maduro, que ahora está haciendo lo que está haciendo en esa región del Medio Oriente y todo lo demás, nos encontramos, por ejemplo, con la información de que Brasil no tiene defensa aérea.",638.32,651.82,"5e217044-0f36-4bb3-81e5-2d2bbe77066f","desarrollar capacidad de defensa aérea nacional","afirma factualmente que 'o Brasil não tem defesa aérea' como contexto de una pregunta.",{"idx":1140,"utterance_id":1141,"speaker_name":174,"text":1142,"start_s":1143,"end_s":1144,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},145,"23301","Brasil no tiene defensa aérea.",652.78,653.7,{"idx":1146,"utterance_id":1147,"speaker_name":174,"text":1148,"start_s":1149,"end_s":1150,"word_count":207,"indexable":179},146,"23302","Si quisiera hacer lo que hizo Trump con Maduro, entraría aquí como loco.",653.96,657.78,{"idx":1152,"utterance_id":1153,"speaker_name":174,"text":1154,"start_s":1155,"end_s":1156,"word_count":43,"indexable":179},147,"23303","Inclusive Lula habría convocado la reunión con el ministro de Defensa también, con Múcio y con el jefe de las Fuerzas Armadas para hablar sobre ese asunto.",657.82,665.92,{"idx":1158,"utterance_id":1159,"speaker_name":174,"text":1160,"start_s":1161,"end_s":1162,"word_count":293,"indexable":179},148,"23304","¿Cuál es su visión sobre un proyecto de defensa para Brasil frente a este mundo que estamos viviendo?",666.32,671.1,{"idx":1164,"utterance_id":1165,"speaker_name":174,"text":1166,"start_s":1167,"end_s":1168,"word_count":195,"indexable":179},149,"23305","Renan, por favor.",671.26,672.04,{"idx":1170,"utterance_id":1171,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1172,"start_s":1173,"end_s":1174,"word_count":244,"indexable":179},150,"23306","De cierta manera, me siento, dadas las debidas proporciones, como el Churchill previo a la Segunda Guerra avisando, mira, va a salir mal.",672.3,678.64,{"idx":1176,"utterance_id":1177,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1178,"start_s":1179,"end_s":1180,"word_count":220,"indexable":179},151,"23307","Ese tipo del bigotito está avanzando aquí, avanzó en los Sudetes, va a salir mal.",679.1,682.76,{"idx":1182,"utterance_id":1183,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1184,"start_s":1185,"end_s":1186,"word_count":186,"indexable":179},152,"23308","El mundo va hacia un clima de guerra fría que cada vez se hace más caliente.",683.24,687.24,{"idx":1188,"utterance_id":1189,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1190,"start_s":1191,"end_s":1192,"word_count":207,"indexable":179},153,"23309","Y las principales naciones disponen de tecnologías que ni siquiera imaginamos en la era militar.",687.76,691.64,{"idx":1194,"utterance_id":1195,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1196,"start_s":1197,"end_s":1198,"word_count":43,"indexable":179},154,"23310","Poca gente siguió y poca gente cubrió en Brasil lo que fue el Manifiesto de Palantir, que es la principal empresa de tecnología militar hoy de Estados Unidos.",692.38,699.76,{"idx":1200,"utterance_id":1201,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1202,"start_s":1203,"end_s":1204,"word_count":21,"indexable":179},155,"23311","Son técnicas de guerra, técnicas cibernético-militares, drones, estrategias de las más diversas que Brasil ni siquiera posee herramientas para comenzar a enfrentar.",700.38,709.82,{"idx":1206,"utterance_id":1207,"speaker_name":174,"text":1208,"start_s":1209,"end_s":1210,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},156,"23312","Algunos dicen que incluso habrían usado eso en la invasión para detener a Maduro.",709.86,713.68,{"idx":39,"utterance_id":1212,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1213,"start_s":1214,"end_s":1215,"word_count":181,"indexable":179},"23313","Sí.",713.84,713.98,{"idx":1217,"utterance_id":1218,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1219,"start_s":1220,"end_s":1221,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},158,"23314","Los relatos de los militares venezolanos son aterradores.",715,717.66,{"idx":1223,"utterance_id":1224,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1225,"start_s":1226,"end_s":1227,"word_count":178,"indexable":179},159,"23315","Nunca vi el tipo de técnica que se utilizó allí.",718.18,720.12,{"idx":1229,"utterance_id":1230,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1231,"start_s":1232,"end_s":1233,"word_count":220,"indexable":179},160,"23316","Hoy no tenemos condiciones de defender nuestro propio territorio en un conflicto.",720.64,724.96,{"idx":1235,"utterance_id":1236,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1237,"start_s":1238,"end_s":1239,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},161,"23317","Pero nuestro territorio es codiciado.",725.22,726.88,{"idx":1241,"utterance_id":1242,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1243,"start_s":1244,"end_s":1245,"word_count":9,"indexable":179},162,"23318","Como usted planteó en su pregunta inicial, disponemos de tierras raras, de recursos naturales, agua, territorio, suelo fértil y somos un terreno en disputa.",727.14,735.24,{"idx":1247,"utterance_id":1248,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1249,"start_s":1250,"end_s":1251,"word_count":244,"indexable":179},163,"23319","China estaba intentando hacer su ocupación geopolítica aquí en América Latina y Estados Unidos nos ve como reserva estratégica.",735.58,741.54,{"idx":1253,"utterance_id":1254,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1255,"start_s":1256,"end_s":1257,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},164,"23320","Así que estaremos en medio de ese conflicto.",741.86,743.58,{"idx":1259,"utterance_id":1260,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1261,"start_s":1262,"end_s":1263,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},165,"23321","Y es un conflicto que llegará a las Américas.",743.88,745.64,{"idx":1265,"utterance_id":1266,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1267,"start_s":1268,"end_s":1269,"word_count":357,"indexable":179},166,"23322","Y tenemos, por necesidad, si queremos mantener nuestro territorio de dimensiones imperiales, continentales, la necesidad nacionalista de mantener nuestro país íntegro, defendiéndonos con lo mejor en técnica.",745.92,758.06,{"idx":1271,"utterance_id":1272,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1273,"start_s":1274,"end_s":1275,"word_count":207,"indexable":179},167,"23323","Y tenemos una oportunidad que nos fue dada por Dios, que son las tierras raras.",758.56,762.68,{"idx":1277,"utterance_id":1278,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1279,"start_s":1280,"end_s":1281,"word_count":186,"indexable":179},168,"23324","Buena parte de los equipos militares de última generación, la industria de semiconductores, los drones, esos equipos necesitan",763.1,770.56,{"idx":1283,"utterance_id":1284,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1285,"start_s":1286,"end_s":1287,"word_count":195,"indexable":179},169,"23325","las tierras raras.",771.22,771.92,{"idx":1289,"utterance_id":1290,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1291,"start_s":1292,"end_s":1293,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},170,"23326","Y ahora estamos discutiendo a quién vamos a vender las tierras raras.",772.28,775.12,{"idx":1295,"utterance_id":1296,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1297,"start_s":1298,"end_s":1299,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":29,"topic_label":26,"target_id":1300,"target_proposition":1301,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":1302,"rationale":1303,"indexable":274},171,"23327","Tenemos que tener una agenda de competitividad, tener, como usted trajo, un espacio fiscal, por eso hablo mucho de reforma fiscal en el área del gasto.",775.74,782.98,"0e4ffbf1-acc6-4b53-8d69-214032e2d5be","promover recortes significativos del gasto público y convertir los ahorros en inversión productiva",0.87,"defiende 'reforma fiscal na área da despesa' para que quede dinero para inversiones.",{"idx":1305,"utterance_id":1306,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1307,"start_s":1308,"end_s":1309,"word_count":293,"indexable":179},172,"23328","Tiene que haber una reforma fiscal en el área del gasto para que sobre dinero para que hagamos las inversiones correctas.",783.3,787.2,{"idx":1311,"utterance_id":1312,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1313,"start_s":1314,"end_s":1315,"word_count":668,"topic_slug":1316,"topic_label":1317,"target_id":1318,"target_proposition":1319,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":1320,"indexable":274},173,"23329","Y con base en eso... traer, negociar con Estados Unidos o con China, o quien sea, no solo la producción y exportación de las tierras raras, sino traer la industria de semiconductores, traer la industria bélica, hacer acuerdos de transferencia de tecnología y entonces comenzar a construir una industria de defensa de alta capacidad para que Brasil pueda prepararse para el mundo nuevo que viene.",787.62,807.22,"seguranca-defesa-e-industria-belica","Seguridad y defensa","f65c9e0c-fb08-4aa6-8420-284f96ddac57","atraer industria de semiconductores y bélica con transferencia de tecnología","propone traer industria y acuerdos de transferencia para construir industria de defensa.",{"idx":1322,"utterance_id":1323,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1324,"start_s":1325,"end_s":1326,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},174,"23330","Ese mundo nuevo que viene no tendrá a Brasil solo como espectador.",807.6,810.78,{"idx":1328,"utterance_id":1329,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1330,"start_s":1331,"end_s":1332,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},175,"23331","Nuestra estrategia de supervivencia en ese mundo es diferente.",811.18,813.84,{"idx":1334,"utterance_id":1335,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1336,"start_s":1337,"end_s":1338,"word_count":312,"indexable":179},176,"23332","El pacto, como usted planteó, pacto pos-Segunda Guerra Mundial, el multilateralismo, los organismos internacionales, todo eso se está relativizando.",814.1,822.04,{"idx":1340,"utterance_id":1341,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1342,"start_s":1343,"end_s":1344,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},177,"23333","Estamos viendo eso en Ucrania, se vio en Venezuela, probablemente se verá en Taiwán.",822.42,826.16,{"idx":1346,"utterance_id":1347,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1348,"start_s":1349,"end_s":1350,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},178,"23334","Y ahora tenemos que estar listos para ese mundo.",826.72,828.24,{"idx":400,"utterance_id":1352,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1353,"start_s":1354,"end_s":1355,"word_count":220,"indexable":179},"23335","Ese mundo puede ser muy cruel con Brasil.",828.44,830.54,{"idx":1357,"utterance_id":1358,"speaker_name":174,"text":1359,"start_s":1360,"end_s":1361,"word_count":43,"indexable":179},180,"23336","Renan, tengo que llamar a nuestro receso, pero solo para complementar una cuestión: Thais preguntó también sobre cómo subsidiar ese aumento de inversión en defensa.",830.74,839.16,{"idx":1363,"utterance_id":1364,"speaker_name":174,"text":1365,"start_s":1366,"end_s":1367,"word_count":32,"indexable":179},181,"23337","¿Cree usted que a veces, por ejemplo, la explotación que aún no ha ocurrido, regularizar y explotar más las tierras raras, podríamos tomar parte de ese dinero y dirigirlo a la inversión en defensa?",840.06,849.76,{"idx":1369,"utterance_id":1370,"speaker_name":174,"text":1371,"start_s":1372,"end_s":1373,"word_count":312,"indexable":179},182,"23338","¿De dónde cree usted que puede venir ese recurso que realmente no es poco para invertir en esa área?",849.82,853.64,{"idx":1375,"utterance_id":1376,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1377,"start_s":1378,"end_s":1379,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},183,"23339","Voy más allá de eso.",854.06,855.06,{"idx":45,"utterance_id":1381,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1382,"start_s":1383,"end_s":1384,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},"23340","No se trata solo de tomar un pedazo de los royalties y dirigirlo al área de defensa.",855.1,859.58,{"idx":1386,"utterance_id":1387,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1388,"start_s":1389,"end_s":1390,"word_count":207,"indexable":179},185,"23341","Estoy hablando de montar una cadena de industria bélica en Brasil con transferencia de tecnología.",859.82,865.46,{"idx":1392,"utterance_id":1393,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1394,"start_s":1395,"end_s":1396,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},186,"23342","Brasil es el segundo país del mundo con mayores reservas de tierras raras.",866.72,870.56,{"idx":1398,"utterance_id":1399,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1400,"start_s":1401,"end_s":1402,"word_count":385,"indexable":179},187,"23343","Por lo tanto, usemos eso como moneda de cambio, tal como Vargas supo utilizar durante la Segunda Guerra Mundial, la bargaña del peso de Brasil para la instalación de una ilustre siderúrgica aquí.",870.96,878.84,{"idx":1404,"utterance_id":1405,"speaker_name":174,"text":1406,"start_s":1407,"end_s":1408,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},188,"23344","La CSN allá en Volta Redonda.",879.04,880.08,{"idx":1410,"utterance_id":1411,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1412,"start_s":1413,"end_s":1414,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},189,"23345","Exacto, necesitamos utilizar eso como moneda de cambio para posicionarnos.",880.12,883.14,{"idx":1416,"utterance_id":1417,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1418,"start_s":1419,"end_s":1420,"word_count":195,"indexable":179},190,"23346","Y es urgente.",883.44,884.18,{"idx":1422,"utterance_id":1423,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1424,"start_s":1425,"end_s":1426,"word_count":207,"topic_slug":1427,"topic_label":1428,"target_id":1429,"target_proposition":1430,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":780,"rationale":1431,"indexable":274},191,"23347","El problema es que en el debate público en Brasil, los dos principales candidatos no hablan de esto.",884.4,887.4,"politica-de-defesa","Política de defensa","ff7df808-e8f9-40c2-9e65-d8e9497715ed","priorizar defensa, tecnología y tierras raras en la agenda nacional","critica a los candidatos por no hablar de defensa y tierras raras, defendiendo esa agenda.",{"idx":1433,"utterance_id":1434,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1435,"start_s":1436,"end_s":1437,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},192,"23348","Uno solo habla de liberar al padre y el otro habla de ahorrar un 'colchón' financiero.",887.84,889.9,{"idx":1439,"utterance_id":1440,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1441,"start_s":1442,"end_s":1443,"word_count":312,"indexable":179},193,"23349","Mientras tanto, dentro de 30 años, quizá no haya país para liberar a nadie ni para poner un 'colchón' financiero.",890.18,894.06,{"idx":1445,"utterance_id":1446,"speaker_name":174,"text":1447,"start_s":1448,"end_s":1449,"word_count":306,"indexable":179},194,"23350","Hoy Brasil está discutiendo algunas materias que ya forman parte del día a día del Congreso.",894.46,900.02,{"idx":1451,"utterance_id":1452,"speaker_name":174,"text":1453,"start_s":1454,"end_s":1455,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},195,"23351","Una de ellas es la reducción de las horas de trabajo, ese proyecto que está en trámite.",900.9,905.88,{"idx":1457,"utterance_id":1458,"speaker_name":174,"text":1459,"start_s":1460,"end_s":1461,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":1462,"topic_label":1463,"target_id":1464,"target_proposition":1465,"stance":431,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":1466,"indexable":274},196,"23352","Un proyecto que, incluso, el primer proyecto que yo llamo absurdo es el 4x3: trabajas cuatro días y descansas tres.",906.7,913.58,"politica-trabalhista","Política laboral","7e604bc4-cc19-4609-8242-477063344112","aprobar implementar jornada laboral 4x3 (reforma laboral)","califica el proyecto 4x3 de 'absurdo', posicionándose explícitamente en contra.",{"idx":1468,"utterance_id":1469,"speaker_name":174,"text":1470,"start_s":1471,"end_s":1472,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},197,"23353","Hasta sería bueno, pero está totalmente fuera de la realidad.",913.9,916.58,{"idx":1474,"utterance_id":1475,"speaker_name":174,"text":1476,"start_s":1477,"end_s":1478,"word_count":306,"indexable":179},198,"23354","Pero el gobierno tiene otro que va más allá de eso y de una manera un poco más, digamos, madura.",917.1,925.76,{"idx":1480,"utterance_id":1481,"speaker_name":174,"text":1482,"start_s":1483,"end_s":1484,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},199,"23355","La oposición también tiene su posición.",926.44,928.66,{"idx":1486,"utterance_id":1487,"speaker_name":174,"text":1488,"start_s":1489,"end_s":1490,"word_count":276,"topic_slug":1491,"topic_label":1492,"target_id":1493,"target_proposition":1494,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":780,"rationale":1495,"indexable":274},200,"23356","El 5 por 2, el 6 por 1 va hacia el 5 por 2.",928.84,930.14,"direitos-trabalhistas","Derechos Laborales","de63f0e8-0006-4b95-9697-6328269885c9","implementar regímenes laborales más flexibles","afirma que va a adoptar 5 por 2, defendiendo un cambio en el régimen de trabajo.",{"idx":1497,"utterance_id":1498,"speaker_name":174,"text":1499,"start_s":1500,"end_s":1501,"word_count":293,"topic_slug":1491,"topic_label":1492,"target_id":1493,"target_proposition":1494,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":1502,"indexable":274},201,"23357","El 5 por 2 con posibilidad de negociar casos específicos, muy diferente del 4 por 3, que es totalmente absurdo.",930.18,938.04,"defiende 5x2 con negociación y califica el 4x3 de 'inteiramente absurdo'.",{"idx":1504,"utterance_id":1505,"speaker_name":174,"text":1506,"start_s":1507,"end_s":1508,"word_count":312,"topic_slug":1509,"topic_label":1510,"target_id":1511,"target_proposition":1512,"stance":258,"stance_confidence":259,"rationale":1513,"indexable":179},202,"23358","En fin, este asunto ha venido para quedarse, se va a discutir y finalmente será... y la votación en el Congreso.",938.64,945.84,"processo-legislativo","Proceso legislativo","e46028ca-9fa8-410e-9b84-4e5087db4b37","solicitar urgencia y llevar el proyecto al plenario","afirma que el asunto será discutido y votado en el Congreso Nacional.",{"idx":11,"utterance_id":1515,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1516,"start_s":1517,"end_s":1518,"word_count":276,"topic_slug":1509,"topic_label":1510,"target_id":1519,"target_proposition":1520,"stance":258,"stance_confidence":259,"rationale":1521,"indexable":179},"23359","No sé exactamente si la votación va a acompañar lo que ocurrió en la CCJ.",947.38,951.7,"5d4fe443-ebf9-4934-a35b-fe016831b4cb","seguir los dictámenes de la CCJ en la votación","expresa duda sobre si la votación seguirá lo ocurrido en la CCJ.",{"idx":1523,"utterance_id":1524,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1525,"start_s":1526,"end_s":1527,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},204,"23360","Para mí, hay un vicio de origen en esta historia.",952.14,954.78,{"idx":1529,"utterance_id":1530,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1531,"start_s":1532,"end_s":1533,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},205,"23361","¿Y cuál es ese vicio de origen?",954.82,955.48,{"idx":55,"utterance_id":1535,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1536,"start_s":1537,"end_s":1538,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},"23362","El hecho de que sea una PEC.",955.88,956.5,{"idx":1540,"utterance_id":1541,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1542,"start_s":1543,"end_s":1544,"word_count":209,"topic_slug":1509,"topic_label":1510,"target_id":1545,"target_proposition":1546,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":499,"rationale":1547,"indexable":179},207,"23363","No tenía que ser una PEC.",956.9,957.9,"6931caf0-1c5d-4b35-b2fa-782f18e7f8c5","tramitar la propuesta como proyecto de ley en lugar de PEC","declara explícitamente que 'não precisava ser uma PEC'.",{"idx":1549,"utterance_id":1550,"speaker_name":174,"text":1551,"start_s":1552,"end_s":1553,"word_count":202,"topic_slug":1509,"topic_label":1510,"target_id":1554,"target_proposition":1555,"stance":258,"stance_confidence":623,"rationale":1556,"indexable":179},208,"23364","El gobierno es proyecto.",958.26,959.16,"03dc81e8-affb-4a86-8980-1169df950f86","asumir la responsabilidad por el envío y la defensa de proyectos del gobierno en el Congreso Nacional","afirma que el gobierno presentará un proyecto.",{"idx":1558,"utterance_id":1559,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1560,"start_s":1561,"end_s":1562,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},209,"23365","Lo que pasó en la CCJ fue la PEC.",959.36,960.82,{"idx":1564,"utterance_id":1565,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1566,"start_s":1567,"end_s":1568,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},210,"23366","Fue la PEC, pero el gobierno va a presentar un proyecto.",960.86,964.94,{"idx":1570,"utterance_id":1571,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1572,"start_s":1573,"end_s":1574,"word_count":178,"indexable":179},211,"23367","Como la PEC está avanzando, el numerito se está desarrollando en la PEC.",964.98,967.5,{"idx":1576,"utterance_id":1577,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1578,"start_s":1579,"end_s":1580,"word_count":207,"indexable":179},212,"23368","Y me parece que hay una voluntad de los parlamentarios de la izquierda de promocionarse discutiendo esto.",967.58,972.68,{"idx":1582,"utterance_id":1583,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1584,"start_s":1585,"end_s":1586,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},213,"23369","y los parlamentarios de derecha, en cambio, buscan no generar rechazo.",973.14,974.92,{"idx":1588,"utterance_id":1589,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1590,"start_s":1591,"end_s":1592,"word_count":293,"indexable":179},214,"23370","Ya es la segunda vez que una agenda que es querida por la izquierda cuenta con la capitulación de la derecha.",975.34,979.56,{"idx":1594,"utterance_id":1595,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1596,"start_s":1597,"end_s":1598,"word_count":374,"indexable":179},215,"23371","El bolsonarismo allí en el PL de la misoginia votó junto con la izquierda y después se queda señalando con el dedo a todo el mundo y llamando a todos comunistas.",980.12,985.24,{"idx":1600,"utterance_id":1601,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1602,"start_s":1603,"end_s":1604,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},216,"23372","si no apoyas ciegamente a Bolsonaro, lo cual es una cobardía, una capitulación.",985.56,989.08,{"idx":1606,"utterance_id":1607,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1608,"start_s":1609,"end_s":1610,"word_count":32,"indexable":179},217,"23373","Incluso encaja mucho con Flávio Bolsonaro, que no le gusta ir a programas como este y que dijo públicamente que no pretende mostrar sus propuestas porque eso le puede restar votos.",989.46,997.48,{"idx":1612,"utterance_id":1613,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1614,"start_s":1615,"end_s":1616,"word_count":193,"indexable":179},218,"23374","Tengo que decir lo que es impopular.",998.34,999.42,{"idx":1618,"utterance_id":1619,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1620,"start_s":1621,"end_s":1622,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},219,"23375","Este proyecto es una estafa.",1000.14,1002.42,{"idx":1624,"utterance_id":1625,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1626,"start_s":1627,"end_s":1628,"word_count":502,"indexable":179},220,"23376","Y es un engaño para atrapar, especialmente a los trabajadores urbanos, que gastan buena parte de su día en el tránsito; es una persona que sale de una periferia y va a trabajar al centro aquí en São Paulo, tarda dos horas, pierde dos horas para ir y dos horas para volver.",1002.78,1013.96,{"idx":1630,"utterance_id":1631,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1632,"start_s":1633,"end_s":1634,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},221,"23377","Cuando te das cuenta, pierde más de 20 horas a la semana solo en tránsito.",1014.46,1017.46,{"idx":1636,"utterance_id":1637,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1638,"start_s":1639,"end_s":1640,"word_count":340,"indexable":179},222,"23378","Pierde tiempo para estar con la familia, tiempo para estar con los amigos, tiempo para formarse, tiempo para hacer un curso, un entrenamiento.",1017.54,1022.82,{"idx":1642,"utterance_id":1643,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1644,"start_s":1645,"end_s":1646,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},223,"23379","Esa persona, en la práctica, sufre eso.",1023.12,1024.54,{"idx":1648,"utterance_id":1649,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1650,"start_s":1651,"end_s":1652,"word_count":306,"indexable":179},224,"23380","Ellos tomaron ese dolor y están intentando volver a tener un tipo de conexión con el trabajador común.",1024.62,1028.46,{"idx":1654,"utterance_id":1655,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1656,"start_s":1657,"end_s":1658,"word_count":59,"indexable":179},225,"23381","Conexión que perdieron porque pasaron los últimos años solo hablando de 'soy trans o no lo soy, soy mujer o no lo soy'.",1028.78,1034.46,{"idx":1660,"utterance_id":1661,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1662,"start_s":1663,"end_s":1664,"word_count":200,"indexable":179},226,"23382","Unas discusiones bizantinas que no tienen ninguna utilidad práctica para el trabajador.",1034.66,1037.72,{"idx":1666,"utterance_id":1667,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1668,"start_s":1669,"end_s":1670,"word_count":207,"indexable":179},227,"23383","Y ellos, en encuestas —el PT ya encargó encuestas— vieron que están perdiendo a ese trabajador.",1038.02,1041.6,{"idx":1672,"utterance_id":1673,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1674,"start_s":1675,"end_s":1676,"word_count":207,"indexable":179},228,"23384","Entonces sacaron esa agenda simplemente para... volver a crecer en términos electorales con esa población.",1041.64,1046.32,{"idx":1678,"utterance_id":1679,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1680,"start_s":1681,"end_s":1682,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":1491,"topic_label":1492,"target_id":1683,"target_proposition":1684,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":1685,"indexable":274},229,"23385","Concuerdo con Aldo en el aspecto de que tenemos que seguir las legislaciones internacionales que están funcionando, y no solo en Estados Unidos y en China.",1046.94,1053.42,"de20d50c-e506-4063-92bb-32558ca11647","alinear la legislación laboral a prácticas internacionales más flexibles","defiende acompañar legislaciones internacionales que funcionan.",{"idx":1687,"utterance_id":1688,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1689,"start_s":1690,"end_s":1691,"word_count":9,"indexable":179},230,"23386","Estamos perdiendo en las cadenas globales de producción espacio frente a Vietnam y a la India, y la India está en un acelerado proceso de industrialización.",1053.46,1061.9,{"idx":1693,"utterance_id":1694,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1695,"start_s":1696,"end_s":1697,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},231,"23387","Y cuando se observan las leyes laborales en todos esos lugares, son mucho más flexibles.",1062.24,1066.16,{"idx":1699,"utterance_id":1700,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1701,"start_s":1702,"end_s":1703,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},232,"23388","Lo que necesito decirle al trabajador brasileño es que necesita flexibilidad.",1066.2,1069.46,{"idx":1705,"utterance_id":1706,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1707,"start_s":1708,"end_s":1709,"word_count":352,"indexable":179},233,"23389","para hacer sus contratos y su trabajo, como sucede en esas otras naciones, donde el ingreso del trabajador aumenta y el empleo formal crece.",1069.9,1075.88,{"idx":1711,"utterance_id":1712,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1713,"start_s":1714,"end_s":1715,"word_count":200,"indexable":179},234,"23390","Aquí el empleo formal disminuye y los ingresos del trabajador están ajustados.",1076.2,1079.68,{"idx":1717,"utterance_id":1718,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1719,"start_s":1720,"end_s":1721,"word_count":238,"indexable":179},235,"23391","Y entonces me suena, y es eso lo que vi en algunos estados del Nordeste, que parece que el gobierno quiere más que la persona caiga en la informalidad y luego reciba una bolsa y quede dependiente del Estado.",1080.26,1088.76,{"idx":1723,"utterance_id":1724,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1725,"start_s":1726,"end_s":1727,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},236,"23392","No creo en 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ese drama.",1104.86,1106.02,{"idx":524,"utterance_id":1747,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1748,"start_s":1749,"end_s":1750,"word_count":59,"indexable":179},"23396","Y entonces siempre que hay un drama, aparece un populista en medio, intentando sacar votos a costa del sufrimiento de la gente.",1106.4,1110.92,{"idx":1752,"utterance_id":1753,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1754,"start_s":1755,"end_s":1756,"word_count":276,"topic_slug":1491,"topic_label":1492,"target_id":1757,"target_proposition":1758,"stance":431,"stance_confidence":272,"rationale":1759,"indexable":274},241,"23397","No creo, y a diferencia de la derecha bolsonarista, nos vamos a oponer públicamente al proyecto.",1111.24,1115.76,"8fe955c6-45e7-4063-b5f3-974fec495ec7","aprobar el proyecto laboral en discusión","declara que 'vamos nos opor publicamente ao 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En caso de que ustedes lleguen a la presidencia de la República, ¿qué está en manos del Poder Ejecutivo para resolver un problema, si existiera, según su criterio?",1149.94,1166.92,{"idx":1820,"utterance_id":1821,"speaker_name":174,"text":1822,"start_s":1823,"end_s":1824,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},252,"23408","Déjenme empezar con Renan.",1167.38,1168.32,{"idx":1826,"utterance_id":1827,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1828,"start_s":1829,"end_s":1830,"word_count":352,"indexable":179},253,"23409","Bueno, a partir de 2012, cuando discutíamos los embargos infringentes, allí la discusión sobre mención, empezamos a oír hablar del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal).",1169.12,1175.54,{"idx":1832,"utterance_id":1833,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1834,"start_s":1835,"end_s":1836,"word_count":9,"indexable":179},254,"23410","Y hoy, estamos en 2026, año de la Copa, sabemos los 11 del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal), pero no sabemos los 11 que estarán en la selección brasileña.",1176.14,1181.6,{"idx":1838,"utterance_id":1839,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1840,"start_s":1841,"end_s":1842,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},255,"23411","Y en realidad Xandão y Neymar son objetos de polémica nacional.",1182.48,1186.26,{"idx":1844,"utterance_id":1845,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1846,"start_s":1847,"end_s":1848,"word_count":200,"topic_slug":40,"topic_label":37,"target_id":1849,"target_proposition":1850,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":1851,"indexable":274},256,"23412","Pero la realidad es que el Supremo tiene que volver a su cajita.",1186.3,1189.22,"637be6a9-0b1c-4793-9e4a-7cc8ec45a53b","garantizar el respeto del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) a la Constitución","pide explícitamente que el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) vuelva a su 'caixinha' constitucional.",{"idx":1853,"utterance_id":1854,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1855,"start_s":1856,"end_s":1857,"word_count":9,"indexable":179},257,"23413","Y la cajita es una cajita en la que trata temas... abstractos, ligados a discusiones sobre la constitucionalidad de asuntos, y no como última instancia de proceso.",1189.8,1197.76,{"idx":1859,"utterance_id":1860,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1861,"start_s":1862,"end_s":1863,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},258,"23414","El Supremo brasileño recibe alrededor de 8.000 procesos.",1198.16,1200.66,{"idx":1865,"utterance_id":1866,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1867,"start_s":1868,"end_s":1869,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},259,"23415","La Corte Suprema estadounidense, 50.",1201.38,1202.5,{"idx":1871,"utterance_id":1872,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1873,"start_s":1874,"end_s":1875,"word_count":293,"indexable":179},260,"23416","Y ni siquiera estoy de acuerdo con el modelo de la Corte Suprema estadounidense, que a veces actúa, digamos, como última instancia.",1202.74,1208.16,{"idx":1877,"utterance_id":1878,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1879,"start_s":1880,"end_s":1881,"word_count":391,"indexable":179},261,"23417","Creo que nuestro modelo tiene que ser de discusiones que involucren, mira, esto aquí es un derecho fundamental, no, esta ley que pasó, este derecho... Eso es todo.",1208.64,1215.82,{"idx":1883,"utterance_id":1884,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1885,"start_s":1886,"end_s":1887,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},262,"23418","Actualmente, es una oficina de negocios.",1216.34,1218.18,{"idx":1889,"utterance_id":1890,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1891,"start_s":1892,"end_s":1893,"word_count":312,"indexable":179},263,"23419","Actualmente es una entidad que cruza todas las líneas posibles, ya sea junto al Legislativo, ya sea junto al Poder Ejecutivo.",1218.7,1225.04,{"idx":1895,"utterance_id":1896,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1897,"start_s":1898,"end_s":1899,"word_count":220,"topic_slug":40,"topic_label":37,"target_id":1900,"target_proposition":1901,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":272,"rationale":1902,"indexable":274},264,"23420","Actualmente es un instrumento autoritario de sus pares y debe ser combatido.",1225.52,1230.54,"24d7e4d8-b958-4da2-94ae-d0b21705d616","limitar las decisiones monocráticas del STF","afirma que el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) es un instrumento autoritario y debe ser combatido.",{"idx":1904,"utterance_id":1905,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1906,"start_s":1907,"end_s":1908,"word_count":220,"indexable":179},265,"23421","Esta semana vimos un espectáculo de horrores del ministro Gilmar Mendes.",1231.08,1233.7,{"idx":1910,"utterance_id":1911,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1912,"start_s":1913,"end_s":1914,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},266,"23422","Y mira, él es reputado como el ministro más inteligente allí, estudió en Alemania.",1234.2,1237.88,{"idx":1916,"utterance_id":1917,"speaker_name":174,"text":1918,"start_s":1919,"end_s":1920,"word_count":195,"indexable":179},267,"23423","Es el decano.",1238.08,1239.7,{"idx":1922,"utterance_id":1923,"speaker_name":174,"text":1924,"start_s":1925,"end_s":1926,"word_count":195,"indexable":179},268,"23424","Está pasando vergüenza.",1240.06,1241.22,{"idx":1928,"utterance_id":1929,"speaker_name":174,"text":1930,"start_s":1931,"end_s":1932,"word_count":178,"indexable":179},269,"23425","Ahora le dio un regalo a Romeu Zema, su adversario.",1241.66,1244.82,{"idx":1934,"utterance_id":1935,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1936,"start_s":1937,"end_s":1938,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},270,"23426","Pues sí, Zema hizo un videíto de... Se volvió loco con el video.",1244.86,1248.46,{"idx":1940,"utterance_id":1941,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1942,"start_s":1943,"end_s":1944,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},271,"23427","Eso es una insanidad.",1249.26,1250.14,{"idx":1946,"utterance_id":1947,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1948,"start_s":1949,"end_s":1950,"word_count":220,"indexable":179},272,"23428","Lo que hizo con el senador Alessandro Vieira no es normal.",1250.2,1253.38,{"idx":1952,"utterance_id":1953,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1954,"start_s":1955,"end_s":1956,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},273,"23429","Lo mismo con Alexandre de Moraes.",1253.54,1254.9,{"idx":1958,"utterance_id":1959,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":1960,"start_s":1961,"end_s":1962,"word_count":312,"indexable":179},274,"23430","Y cuando aparecen las cosas indecorosas, las participaciones en el escándalo del Banco Master, se hacen los 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privilegiado.",1318.64,1321.22,{"idx":2094,"utterance_id":2095,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2096,"start_s":2097,"end_s":2098,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},296,"23452","El código de conducta.",1321.26,1322.3,{"idx":2100,"utterance_id":2101,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2102,"start_s":2103,"end_s":2104,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},297,"23453","Es que es una discusión que está ocurriendo allí.",1322.36,1323.32,{"idx":2106,"utterance_id":2107,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2108,"start_s":2109,"end_s":2110,"word_count":293,"topic_slug":40,"topic_label":37,"target_id":2111,"target_proposition":2112,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":2113,"indexable":274},298,"23454","Creo que el código de conducta es esencial y esto incluye también la imposibilidad de que existan despachos de abogados vinculados a familiares.",1323.52,1329,"d7be9d64-edc3-453b-9c7d-f209c633c512","implantar un código de conducta y prohibir despachos vinculados a 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tipos.",1346.14,1347.9,{"idx":34,"utterance_id":2151,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2152,"start_s":2153,"end_s":2154,"word_count":178,"topic_slug":40,"topic_label":37,"target_id":2155,"target_proposition":2156,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":2157,"indexable":274},"23461","Necesitamos crear una corte específica que va a ocuparse específicamente de esos casos.",1348.1,1351.36,"33a984f9-1a6d-4ff5-89e1-7679b692c97f","crear una corte específica para juzgar casos de fuero privilegiado","propone crear una corte específica para tratar el fuero privilegiado.",{"idx":2159,"utterance_id":2160,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2161,"start_s":2162,"end_s":2163,"word_count":477,"indexable":179},306,"23462","Y además hay otro tema, que también es sensible para el ministro Aldo, que es el caso de las ONGs que hacen lobby junto, vamos a decir los nombres, con rede de sustentabilidade, con PSOL, que llegan allí y se ponen a frenar obras, a parar proyectos que avanzan.",1351.68,1362.44,{"idx":2165,"utterance_id":2166,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2167,"start_s":2168,"end_s":2169,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},307,"23463","Ustedes van a ver, pueden esperar.",1362.7,1364.48,{"idx":2171,"utterance_id":2172,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2173,"start_s":2174,"end_s":2175,"word_count":207,"indexable":179},308,"23464","El intento de sabotaje es el licenciamiento ambiental que veremos en los próximos meses.",1364.82,1367.9,{"idx":2177,"utterance_id":2178,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2179,"start_s":2180,"end_s":2181,"word_count":293,"topic_slug":2182,"topic_label":2183,"target_id":2184,"target_proposition":2185,"stance":258,"stance_confidence":259,"rationale":2186,"indexable":179},309,"23465","Intentarán sabotear el licenciamiento ambiental, que hará que un montón de obras se pongan en marcha en Brasil, simplemente porque sí.",1368.14,1372.84,"meio-ambiente-e-energia-renovavel","Medio ambiente y energía renovable","f436b592-2ff8-42cb-832f-4473c1da2209","reformar el licenciamiento ambiental para evitar sabotajes que perjudiquen obras","alerta que intentarán sabotear el licenciamiento ambiental.",{"idx":2188,"utterance_id":2189,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2190,"start_s":2191,"end_s":2192,"word_count":352,"indexable":179},310,"23466","Porque hay una agenda internacional financiada por ONGs manejadas y financiadas por nuestros competidores internacionales que intentarán usar el STF para sabotear el país.",1372.88,1379.54,{"idx":2194,"utterance_id":2195,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2196,"start_s":2197,"end_s":2198,"word_count":195,"indexable":179},311,"23467","No podemos permitirlo.",1379.88,1380.62,{"idx":2200,"utterance_id":2201,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2202,"start_s":2203,"end_s":2204,"word_count":222,"topic_slug":2182,"topic_label":2183,"target_id":2205,"target_proposition":2206,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":272,"rationale":2207,"indexable":179},312,"23468","Yo, como presidente de la República, no lo permitiré.",1380.94,1382.64,"1bf9f021-4b93-406c-842d-e49219cb4c53","impedir que el licenciamiento ambiental se use para sabotear obras","promete, como presidente, no permitir ese sabotaje.",{"idx":28,"utterance_id":2209,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2210,"start_s":2211,"end_s":2212,"word_count":317,"topic_slug":2213,"topic_label":2214,"target_id":2215,"target_proposition":2216,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":499,"rationale":2217,"indexable":274},"23469","Y tenemos que tener, digamos, una política que empodere ahora al Ejecutivo, porque la gente vota al presidente de la República, y que recoloque al STF en sus funciones naturales.",1383.02,1391.06,"instituicoes","Instituciones","3ed69459-1fc6-4b3d-92f4-485fdcee68d8","fortalecer el poder del Poder Ejecutivo","defiende una política que empodere al Ejecutivo explícitamente.",{"idx":2219,"utterance_id":2220,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2221,"start_s":2222,"end_s":2223,"word_count":15,"indexable":179},314,"23470","El Legislativo también, y ahí pido a la gente que vote bien este año, no debe haber payasos, debe haber personas valientes e íntegras para abordar este asunto de manera inteligente.",1391.7,1400.38,{"idx":2225,"utterance_id":2226,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2227,"start_s":2228,"end_s":2229,"word_count":186,"indexable":179},315,"23471","Este tema del STF es muy importante, no podemos ignorarlo; lamentablemente ocupa mucho espacio.",1400.76,1404.16,{"idx":2231,"utterance_id":2232,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2233,"start_s":2234,"end_s":2235,"word_count":374,"topic_slug":24,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2236,"target_proposition":2237,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":2238,"indexable":274},316,"23472","Está claro: lo digo de manera enfática, el 5 de enero, algunas áreas de Brasil que están bajo control del crimen las voy a poner en estado de defensa.",1404.5,1410.36,"3eca0e5c-a1b0-4f07-a469-c7f9cbb3c566","decretar estado de defensa para permitir registros e incautaciones sin orden judicial en territorios dominados por el crimen organizado","promete declarar en estado de defensa las áreas bajo el comando del crimen.",{"idx":2240,"utterance_id":2241,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2242,"start_s":2243,"end_s":2244,"word_count":385,"indexable":179},317,"23473","Estoy absolutamente seguro de que vendrá una acción del PSOL, el PSOL presentará una acción y habrá un ministro que dará una decisión monocrática bloqueándola.",1410.58,1415.76,{"idx":2246,"utterance_id":2247,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2248,"start_s":2249,"end_s":2250,"word_count":306,"indexable":179},318,"23474","Pero si la solicitud de estado de defensa pasa por el proceso legislativo correctamente... Obtuve la mayoría, lo conseguí.",1416.16,1421.32,{"idx":2252,"utterance_id":2253,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2254,"start_s":2255,"end_s":2256,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},319,"23475","Entonces la decisión ilegal no se cumple.",1422.4,1424.6,{"idx":2258,"utterance_id":2259,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2260,"start_s":2261,"end_s":2262,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":40,"topic_label":37,"target_id":2263,"target_proposition":2264,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":2265,"indexable":274},320,"23476","Y tenemos que estar preparados para tener un presidente de la República que no obedezca una decisión ilegal que venga del STF.",1425.1,1430.82,"a9d24f85-7acf-4008-8dc6-2b45c2265f52","rechazar cumplir decisiones ilegales del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal)","declara textualmente 'Decisão ilegal não se cumpre'.",{"idx":2267,"utterance_id":2268,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2269,"start_s":2270,"end_s":2271,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},321,"23477","No se cumple una decisión ilegal.",1431.26,1433,{"idx":2273,"utterance_id":2274,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2275,"start_s":2276,"end_s":2277,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},322,"23478","Incluso antes no se cumplió.",1433.32,1434.38,{"idx":2279,"utterance_id":2280,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2281,"start_s":2282,"end_s":2283,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},323,"23479","Una vez hubo una decisión de Marco Aurélio, ordenando apartar a Renan Calheiros, 2016.",1434.44,1437.42,{"idx":2285,"utterance_id":2286,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2287,"start_s":2288,"end_s":2289,"word_count":178,"indexable":179},324,"23480","Renan Calheiros, sin ninguna calidad moral, vamos a dejarlo claro, dijo que no.",1438.26,1442.82,{"idx":2291,"utterance_id":2292,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2293,"start_s":2294,"end_s":2295,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},325,"23481","Se produjo el impasse y lo anularon.",1443.34,1444.74,{"idx":2297,"utterance_id":2298,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2299,"start_s":2300,"end_s":2301,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},326,"23482","Creo que ya es hora de hacer eso.",1445.12,1446.22,{"idx":2303,"utterance_id":2304,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2305,"start_s":2306,"end_s":2307,"word_count":21,"indexable":179},327,"23483","Bolsonaro se la pasaba comprando; nosotros asumimos muchos conflictos del periodo de Bolsonaro, en los que él se la pasaba gritando: 'ah, no me gusta Xandão'.",1446.54,1452.34,{"idx":2309,"utterance_id":2310,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2311,"start_s":2312,"end_s":2313,"word_count":207,"indexable":179},328,"23484","Luego lloraba por teléfono con Xandão, como se relató, pidió ayuda a Michel Temer.",1452.82,1456.14,{"idx":2315,"utterance_id":2316,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2317,"start_s":2318,"end_s":2319,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},329,"23485","No es así como se resuelve.",1456.5,1457.36,{"idx":2321,"utterance_id":2322,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2323,"start_s":2324,"end_s":2325,"word_count":193,"indexable":179},330,"23486","Institucionalmente vas a tener que poner un freno.",1457.76,1459.38,{"idx":2327,"utterance_id":2328,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2329,"start_s":2330,"end_s":2331,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},331,"23487","¿Qué va a hacer el Supremo?",1459.66,1460.56,{"idx":2333,"utterance_id":2334,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2335,"start_s":2336,"end_s":2337,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},332,"23488","¿El Supremo te va a dar un golpe de Estado?",1460.62,1461.68,{"idx":2339,"utterance_id":2340,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2341,"start_s":2342,"end_s":2343,"word_count":193,"indexable":179},333,"23489","Necesitamos, digamos, supervisar el proceso legislativo.",1462.28,1464.24,{"idx":2345,"utterance_id":2346,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2347,"start_s":2348,"end_s":2349,"word_count":193,"indexable":179},334,"23490","fue llevado a cabo a través de sus agentes debidamente constituidos.",1464.9,1468.26,{"idx":2351,"utterance_id":2352,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2353,"start_s":2354,"end_s":2355,"word_count":340,"topic_slug":2213,"topic_label":2214,"target_id":2356,"target_proposition":2357,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":2358,"rationale":2359,"indexable":274},335,"23491","Y si el presidente debidamente constituido entró, digamos, en el cumplimiento de sus atribuciones con el proyecto, eso debe ser respetado por el STF.",1468.3,1474.94,"80a0704f-55c3-4aa9-ba07-7ad2239d98ca","garantizar el respeto del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) a las decisiones del Ejecutivo y del Legislativo",0.82,"defiende que las decisiones legislativas y ejecutivas sean respetadas por el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal).",{"idx":2361,"utterance_id":2362,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2363,"start_s":2364,"end_s":2365,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},336,"23492","No es porque quieran discutir derechos humanos en Harvard que eso vaya a ser anulado.",1475.44,1477.82,{"idx":2367,"utterance_id":2368,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2369,"start_s":2370,"end_s":2371,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},337,"23493","Eso tiene que quedar claro.",1477.88,1478.52,{"idx":2373,"utterance_id":2374,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2375,"start_s":2376,"end_s":2377,"word_count":200,"indexable":179},338,"23494","El próximo presidente de la República tendrá que lidiar con este problema.",1478.62,1481.14,{"idx":2379,"utterance_id":2380,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2381,"start_s":2382,"end_s":2383,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},339,"23495","Y no vamos a poder huir de este asunto.",1481.44,1483.34,{"idx":2385,"utterance_id":2386,"speaker_name":174,"text":2387,"start_s":2388,"end_s":2389,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},340,"23496","Nuestra representación política en Brasil está completamente equivocada.",1483.9,1487.36,{"idx":2391,"utterance_id":2392,"speaker_name":174,"text":2393,"start_s":2394,"end_s":2395,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},341,"23497","No representa lo que debería representar.",1487.42,1489.86,{"idx":2397,"utterance_id":2398,"speaker_name":174,"text":2399,"start_s":2400,"end_s":2401,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},342,"23498","Hay algunos proyectos muy buenos que están perdidos por allí.",1491.22,1493.98,{"idx":2403,"utterance_id":2404,"speaker_name":174,"text":2405,"start_s":2406,"end_s":2407,"word_count":306,"topic_slug":2408,"topic_label":2409,"target_id":2410,"target_proposition":2411,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":780,"rationale":2412,"indexable":274},343,"23499","proponiendo el voto distrital, sistema mixto, como en Alemania, proponiendo el voto ilícito, y esto debe volver ahora.",1494.36,1502.04,"reforma-politica","Reforma política","1d573ffd-53bf-4550-9b89-b632f07512f0","implementar voto distrital mixto (sistema mixto)","defiende explícitamente el retorno del voto distrital mixto.",{"idx":2414,"utterance_id":2415,"speaker_name":174,"text":2416,"start_s":2417,"end_s":2418,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},344,"23500","Quisiera saber la opinión de ustedes.",1502.46,1503.92,{"idx":2420,"utterance_id":2421,"speaker_name":174,"text":2422,"start_s":2423,"end_s":2424,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},345,"23501","¿El voto distrital, va?",1504.48,1505.88,{"idx":2426,"utterance_id":2427,"speaker_name":174,"text":2428,"start_s":2429,"end_s":2430,"word_count":188,"indexable":179},346,"23502","¿No va?",1506.24,1506.62,{"idx":2432,"utterance_id":2433,"speaker_name":174,"text":2434,"start_s":2435,"end_s":2436,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},347,"23503","¿El voto actual funciona?",1507.02,1508.96,{"idx":2438,"utterance_id":2439,"speaker_name":174,"text":2440,"start_s":2441,"end_s":2442,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},348,"23504","Claro que no funciona.",1509.04,1509.98,{"idx":2444,"utterance_id":2445,"speaker_name":174,"text":2446,"start_s":2447,"end_s":2448,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},349,"23505","¿Están de acuerdo con eso?",1510.08,1511.26,{"idx":2450,"utterance_id":2451,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2452,"start_s":2453,"end_s":2454,"word_count":312,"topic_slug":2408,"topic_label":2409,"target_id":2455,"target_proposition":2456,"stance":431,"stance_confidence":272,"rationale":2457,"indexable":274},350,"23506","No creo en el voto distrital puro, porque el voto distrital puro en Brasil es simplemente el empoderamiento del centrão.",1511.56,1515.96,"48c71375-a581-46fd-badb-54e00572c281","implementar voto distrital puro","dice explícitamente no creer en el voto distrital puro.",{"idx":2459,"utterance_id":2460,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2461,"start_s":2462,"end_s":2463,"word_count":207,"indexable":179},351,"23507","Y tenemos un modelo político a través de enmiendas y cooptación que es un desastre.",1516.62,1521.04,{"idx":2465,"utterance_id":2466,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2467,"start_s":2468,"end_s":2469,"word_count":477,"indexable":179},352,"23508","Y nosotros, cuanto más recorremos Brasil, más vemos que existe una versión del voto distrital, que son los políticos que cooptan, digamos, las alcaldías locales, distribuyen enmiendas, compran el voto y se mantienen con sus familias durante mucho tiempo.",1521.42,1532.4,{"idx":2471,"utterance_id":2472,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2473,"start_s":2474,"end_s":2475,"word_count":220,"topic_slug":2408,"topic_label":2409,"target_id":2476,"target_proposition":2477,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":2478,"indexable":274},353,"23509","La reforma que quiero, la estoy llamando ley de responsabilidad gerencial.",1532.8,1536.44,"1b556171-6cbf-4f82-990a-561a779c3d7c","crear e implementar una ley de responsabilidad gerencial para municipios","propone explícitamente una ley de responsabilidad gerencial.",{"idx":2480,"utterance_id":2481,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2482,"start_s":2483,"end_s":2484,"word_count":186,"indexable":179},354,"23510","Es una norma que modifica lo siguiente: el sistema de incentivos para el funcionamiento de las alcaldías.",1536.92,1542.28,{"idx":2486,"utterance_id":2487,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2488,"start_s":2489,"end_s":2490,"word_count":193,"indexable":179},355,"23511","Y el enfoque tiene que estar en el alcalde.",1542.64,1543.82,{"idx":2492,"utterance_id":2493,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2494,"start_s":2495,"end_s":2496,"word_count":374,"indexable":179},356,"23512","Un alcalde, hoy, gana una elección haciendo un show de Wesley Safadão con la enmienda del diputado aliado, y ahí... Compra de votos pura y simple.",1544.2,1551.34,{"idx":2498,"utterance_id":2499,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2500,"start_s":2501,"end_s":2502,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},357,"23513","Así es como funcionan los municipios pequeños de Brasil y no podemos evitarlo.",1551.4,1555.18,{"idx":2504,"utterance_id":2505,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2506,"start_s":2507,"end_s":2508,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},358,"23514","Porque en la práctica no existe democracia en Brasil.",1555.46,1558.52,{"idx":2510,"utterance_id":2511,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2512,"start_s":2513,"end_s":2514,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},359,"23515","Un país en el que hay compra de votos, tenemos una democracia nominal.",1558.68,1560.9,{"idx":2516,"utterance_id":2517,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2518,"start_s":2519,"end_s":2520,"word_count":385,"indexable":179},360,"23516","Las personas son cooptadas en el periodo electoral, ya sea por la máquina pública, por la compra de votos, por la Caja 2, votan allí con el grupo familiar y el juego continúa.",1561.48,1568.68,{"idx":2522,"utterance_id":2523,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2524,"start_s":2525,"end_s":2526,"word_count":385,"topic_slug":2527,"topic_label":2528,"target_id":2529,"target_proposition":2530,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":272,"rationale":2531,"indexable":274},361,"23517","Necesitamos fusionar municipios, establecer criterios objetivos de evaluación de los alcaldes, de forma que un alcalde, si quiere participar en una reelección... tendrá que cumplir como mínimo.",1569.14,1578.44,"governanca-politica","Gobernanza política","3c5ba920-8238-4b13-b552-da9665e41c95","fusionar municipios y establecer criterios objetivos para evaluar a los alcaldes","propone fusionar municipios y criterios objetivos para evaluar a los alcaldes.",{"idx":2533,"utterance_id":2534,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2535,"start_s":2536,"end_s":2537,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},362,"23518","Si tiene 10% de cobertura de alcantarillado en ese municipio, entregue, por ejemplo, 20%.",1578.58,1582.18,{"idx":2539,"utterance_id":2540,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2541,"start_s":2542,"end_s":2543,"word_count":193,"indexable":179},363,"23519","El IBGE, el IPE, órganos pueden trabajar en ello.",1582.4,1584.72,{"idx":2545,"utterance_id":2546,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2547,"start_s":2548,"end_s":2549,"word_count":195,"indexable":179},364,"23520","Establecer esos criterios.",1585.08,1585.82,{"idx":2551,"utterance_id":2552,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2553,"start_s":2554,"end_s":2555,"word_count":312,"indexable":179},365,"23521","Mejora en el ranking del Saeb, mejora la cobertura de alcantarillado, mejoran indicadores relacionados con la atención en las UBS en los municipios.",1586.06,1592.46,{"idx":2557,"utterance_id":2558,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2559,"start_s":2560,"end_s":2561,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},366,"23522","Si obtuvo esos índices, participa de la reelección normalmente, puede incluso hacer su show de Wesley Safadão.",1592.88,1596.82,{"idx":2563,"utterance_id":2564,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2565,"start_s":2566,"end_s":2567,"word_count":178,"indexable":179},367,"23523","Si no obtuvo esos índices, el alcalde debe recibir una sanción.",1597.22,1599.56,{"idx":2569,"utterance_id":2570,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2571,"start_s":2572,"end_s":2573,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},368,"23524","Y la segunda cosa, que es súper simple de resolver.",1600,1602.08,{"idx":2575,"utterance_id":2576,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2577,"start_s":2578,"end_s":2579,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":2580,"topic_label":2581,"target_id":2582,"target_proposition":2583,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":2584,"indexable":274},369,"23525","El fondo partidario electoral en Brasil, que ya es altísimo, no tiene que estar condicionado por el número de Tiriricas, o Nicolas Ferreiras, o Éricas Hilton, que uno elige en su partido.",1602.8,1612.56,"financiamento-de-campanha","Financiamiento de campaña","2f86eb51-915f-4176-b5e6-7e40bfeaf1c4","condicionar transferencias partidarias al desempeño de los electos","defiende condicionar el fondo partidario a criterios objetivos de desempeño.",{"idx":2586,"utterance_id":2587,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2588,"start_s":2589,"end_s":2590,"word_count":276,"indexable":179},370,"23526","Debe estar condicionado a esos criterios de desempeño objetivo de sus alcaldes.",1613.16,1616.96,{"idx":2592,"utterance_id":2593,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2594,"start_s":2595,"end_s":2596,"word_count":502,"indexable":179},371,"23527","Entonces, un partido tiene a los alcaldes, los alcaldes obtienen buenos índices de desempeño, medidos de manera objetiva, por lo tanto, atienden al interés de la población local, incluso cuando la población local no sabe evaluar, la población local en Brasil no sabe evaluar, por ejemplo, la importancia del saneamiento básico.",1617.46,1630.74,{"idx":2598,"utterance_id":2599,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2600,"start_s":2601,"end_s":2602,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},372,"23528","No lo reclaman: 'quiero mi saneamiento'.",1631.16,1632.44,{"idx":2604,"utterance_id":2605,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2606,"start_s":2607,"end_s":2608,"word_count":178,"indexable":179},373,"23529","Nadie lo exige, además porque la obra está ocurriendo bajo la tierra.",1632.5,1634.7,{"idx":2610,"utterance_id":2611,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2612,"start_s":2613,"end_s":2614,"word_count":220,"indexable":179},374,"23530","Y entonces a nadie le importa ni siquiera con el marco del saneamiento del año pasado.",1635.02,1637.3,{"idx":2616,"utterance_id":2617,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2618,"start_s":2619,"end_s":2620,"word_count":328,"indexable":179},375,"23531","Entonces, hacer esto obliga a los partidos a, opa, yo quiero poner buenos alcaldes que van a obtener buenos índices de desempeño y así tengo más dinero para reinvertir en más buenos alcaldes y administradores públicos de calidad.",1638,1650.32,{"idx":2622,"utterance_id":2623,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2624,"start_s":2625,"end_s":2626,"word_count":281,"indexable":179},376,"23532","Con este sistema de incentivos, por un lado, y con la sanción para que el líder político local y el partido no puedan concurrir a la elección, incluso quedar inhabilitados por ocho años en ese municipio, ahí empezamos a equilibrar.",1650.72,1660.8,{"idx":2628,"utterance_id":2629,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2630,"start_s":2631,"end_s":2632,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},377,"23533","Establecemos criterios objetivos de evaluación.",1661.04,1663.08,{"idx":2634,"utterance_id":2635,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2636,"start_s":2637,"end_s":2638,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},378,"23534","Y eso lo empezamos a dimensionar.",1663.48,1664.66,{"idx":2640,"utterance_id":2641,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2642,"start_s":2643,"end_s":2644,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},379,"23535","La necesidad de las enmiendas, la función de los diputados federales y la función de los partidos políticos.",1664.76,1669.34,{"idx":2646,"utterance_id":2647,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2648,"start_s":2649,"end_s":2650,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},380,"23536","Porque hoy el partido político es solo un nombre.",1669.64,1672.8,{"idx":2652,"utterance_id":2653,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2654,"start_s":2655,"end_s":2656,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},381,"23537","¿Cuál es la diferencia entre el PSD y el PP, y el União Brasil, y el NDB?",1673.36,1676.26,{"idx":2658,"utterance_id":2659,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2660,"start_s":2661,"end_s":2662,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},382,"23538","Prácticamente no sirven para nada.",1676.92,1678.02,{"idx":2664,"utterance_id":2665,"speaker_name":174,"text":2666,"start_s":2667,"end_s":2668,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},383,"23539","La representación popular... Tal como está, se mantendría.",1678.1,1682.26,{"idx":2670,"utterance_id":2671,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2672,"start_s":2673,"end_s":2674,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},384,"23540","Por supuesto, uno vota en la elección.",1682.58,1683.98,{"idx":2676,"utterance_id":2677,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2678,"start_s":2679,"end_s":2680,"word_count":509,"indexable":179},385,"23541","Sucede que un alcalde está cuatro años en el municipio, toma ese municipio con 2% de alcantarillado, y termina con 2% de alcantarillado o agua potable, y la población lo reelige, la población lo reelige porque está en un nivel de pobreza que ha normalizado lo absurdo.",1684.3,1699.32,{"idx":2682,"utterance_id":2683,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2684,"start_s":2685,"end_s":2686,"word_count":749,"indexable":179},386,"23542","Y entonces ese alcalde no tiene ninguna obligación de aumentar la actividad económica en ese municipio, ninguna, sigue con el Pires en la mano pidiendo dinero del Fondo de Participación de los Municipios, llega el dinero... No hace nada útil, hace el famoso show de Wesley Safadão, de Natanzinho en el municipio, coloca a su gente en la alcaldía, cooptan a la gente, hacen caja dos con el dinero desviado de las enmiendas que están en torno a más de 60 millones, y el juego sigue y es reelegido.",1699.64,1720.98,{"idx":2688,"utterance_id":2689,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2690,"start_s":2691,"end_s":2692,"word_count":186,"indexable":179},387,"23543","Cuando vamos a las pequeñas alcaldías de los lugares más pobres de Brasil, vemos eso.",1721.02,1725.02,{"idx":2694,"utterance_id":2695,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2696,"start_s":2697,"end_s":2698,"word_count":200,"indexable":179},388,"23544","¿Por qué se reelige al alcalde que no mejora ningún indicador básico?",1725.06,1727.8,{"idx":2700,"utterance_id":2701,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2702,"start_s":2703,"end_s":2704,"word_count":207,"indexable":179},389,"23545","El alcalde, por lo tanto, no está cumpliendo su papel constitucional de atender las demandas de la población.",1728.42,1733.2,{"idx":2706,"utterance_id":2707,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2708,"start_s":2709,"end_s":2710,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},390,"23546","Y la población no sabe evaluar.",1733.94,1735.04,{"idx":2712,"utterance_id":2713,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2714,"start_s":2715,"end_s":2716,"word_count":200,"indexable":179},391,"23547","Vamos a necesitar ayudar a la población a evaluar de alguna manera.",1735.2,1737.6,{"idx":732,"utterance_id":2718,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2719,"start_s":2720,"end_s":2721,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},"23548","Y esos criterios objetivos tienen que estar presentes en eso.",1737.92,1740,{"idx":2723,"utterance_id":2724,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2725,"start_s":2726,"end_s":2727,"word_count":200,"indexable":179},393,"23549","A menos que aceptemos las cosas tal como están.",1740.1,1741.96,{"idx":2729,"utterance_id":2730,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2731,"start_s":2732,"end_s":2733,"word_count":306,"indexable":179},394,"23550","Muy bien, voy a ver Maranhão para siempre, sin calles, sin alcantarillado y con una actividad económica muy baja.",1742.32,1747.8,{"idx":2735,"utterance_id":2736,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2737,"start_s":2738,"end_s":2739,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},395,"23551","¿Es eso lo que queremos?",1748.1,1748.68,{"idx":2741,"utterance_id":2742,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2743,"start_s":2744,"end_s":2745,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},396,"23552","¿Llamamos a eso democracia?",1748.72,1749.64,{"idx":2747,"utterance_id":2748,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2749,"start_s":2750,"end_s":2751,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},397,"23553","No puedo estar de acuerdo.",1750.18,1750.94,{"idx":2753,"utterance_id":2754,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2755,"start_s":2756,"end_s":2757,"word_count":193,"indexable":179},398,"23554","Entonces una reforma tiene que pasar por esto.",1751.2,1752.68,{"idx":2759,"utterance_id":2760,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2761,"start_s":2762,"end_s":2763,"word_count":352,"indexable":179},399,"23555","Porque si no se cambia esto, la distrital mixta, la distrital pura, el modelo alemán, el modelo portugués con lista cerrada, no marcarán la diferencia.",1752.92,1760.88,{"idx":2765,"utterance_id":2766,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2767,"start_s":2768,"end_s":2769,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},400,"23556","Será lo mismo.",1764.06,1764.6,{"idx":2771,"utterance_id":2772,"speaker_name":174,"text":2773,"start_s":2774,"end_s":2775,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},401,"23557","¿Cuál es su posición sobre las privatizaciones?",1765.3,1766.98,{"idx":2777,"utterance_id":2778,"speaker_name":174,"text":2779,"start_s":2780,"end_s":2781,"word_count":306,"indexable":179},402,"23558","Estamos viendo, por ejemplo, que algunas empresas estatales como los Correios presentan un déficit gigantesco en estos últimos años.",1767.02,1772.94,{"idx":2783,"utterance_id":2784,"speaker_name":174,"text":2785,"start_s":2786,"end_s":2787,"word_count":276,"topic_slug":2788,"topic_label":2789,"target_id":2790,"target_proposition":2791,"stance":258,"stance_confidence":2792,"rationale":2793,"indexable":179},403,"23559","Señor, en caso de ser presidente, ¿mantendría esas empresas estatales o piensa en privatizaciones?",1773.36,1778.52,"privatizacoes-e-politica-economica","Privatizaciones y política económica","0806bbe6-36f8-4e4e-8130-d986c9559930","privatizar empresas estatales",0.6,"pregunta sobre mantener o privatizar, sin defensa explícita.",{"idx":2795,"utterance_id":2796,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2797,"start_s":2798,"end_s":2799,"word_count":209,"topic_slug":2788,"topic_label":2789,"target_id":2790,"target_proposition":2791,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":349,"rationale":2800,"indexable":179},404,"23560","Estoy a favor dependiendo del caso.",1778.94,1780.44,"declara 'Sou favorável' directamente a la privatización, aunque de forma condicional.",{"idx":2802,"utterance_id":2803,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2804,"start_s":2805,"end_s":2806,"word_count":169,"topic_slug":2807,"topic_label":2808,"target_id":2809,"target_proposition":2810,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":272,"rationale":2811,"indexable":274},405,"23561","Ahora, en un modelo más amplio, tenemos que entender que con la llegada de la inteligencia artificial, el aprendizaje automático, podremos utilizar la centralidad del Estado de manera eficiente como nunca antes en la historia de Brasil.",1780.76,1790.44,"desburocratizacao-e-digitalizacao","Desburocratización y digitalización","cb315db1-cd50-4401-bbd0-90e2885fbeea","implementar tecnología en la administración pública","propone usar IA para hacer más eficiente la centralidad del Estado.",{"idx":2813,"utterance_id":2814,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2815,"start_s":2816,"end_s":2817,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},406,"23562","Estoy muy optimista.",1790.58,1791.46,{"idx":2819,"utterance_id":2820,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2821,"start_s":2822,"end_s":2823,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":2824,"topic_label":2825,"target_id":2826,"target_proposition":2827,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":780,"rationale":2828,"indexable":274},407,"23563","Que Petrobras sea pública o privada es algo menor en comparación con lo que Petrobras y todo el sector podrán hacer.",1791.9,1797.86,"politica-industrial-e-energia","Política industrial y energética","190acfd7-2363-43dd-974a-64c2180356d6","priorizar el desarrollo del sector petrolero independientemente de la forma de propiedad","minimiza la discusión sobre la propiedad y enfatiza el potencial del sector.",{"idx":2830,"utterance_id":2831,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2832,"start_s":2833,"end_s":2834,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},408,"23564","Un mundo en el que el conocimiento será compartido.",1797.94,1801.48,{"idx":2836,"utterance_id":2837,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2838,"start_s":2839,"end_s":2840,"word_count":215,"indexable":179},409,"23565","Es una novedad muy grande en eso.",1802.24,1803.62,{"idx":2842,"utterance_id":2843,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2844,"start_s":2845,"end_s":2846,"word_count":509,"topic_slug":2847,"topic_label":2848,"target_id":2849,"target_proposition":2850,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":2851,"indexable":274},410,"23566","Un ejemplo, aunque no sea una empresa pública: el SUS, con el uso de la inteligencia artificial, del aprendizaje automático, del prontuario único, de aplicaciones que permitirán que puedas consultar al médico al instante, va a pasar por una revolución en los próximos años.",1803.9,1815.98,"saude-publica-e-infraestrutura-hospitalar","Salud pública y infraestructura hospitalaria","3df76fdf-0791-46ca-ab80-fefb349ecf8e","modernizar el SUS con inteligencia artificial y registro clínico único","defiende el uso de IA y de un registro único para revolucionar el SUS.",{"idx":2853,"utterance_id":2854,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2855,"start_s":2856,"end_s":2857,"word_count":312,"topic_slug":2847,"topic_label":2848,"target_id":2858,"target_proposition":2859,"stance":431,"stance_confidence":272,"rationale":2860,"indexable":274},411,"23567","Yo era como liberal... Un poco, no me gustaba el SUS; todo lo que tiene 'único' en el nombre, yo era algo contrario.",1816.36,1822.26,"9efba414-eb74-4699-bb78-23f0e0a8dff8","mantener el sistema público de salud unificado (SUS)","declara 'não gosto do SUS', expresando oposición al sistema único.",{"idx":2862,"utterance_id":2863,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2864,"start_s":2865,"end_s":2866,"word_count":293,"topic_slug":2847,"topic_label":2848,"target_id":2849,"target_proposition":2850,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":432,"rationale":2867,"indexable":274},412,"23568","Hoy ya veo el modelo centralizado del SUS, junto con la tecnología, con el aprendizaje automático, como una dádiva.",1822.3,1827.5,"dice ver el modelo centralizado del SUS con tecnología como 'dádiva'.",{"idx":2869,"utterance_id":2870,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2871,"start_s":2872,"end_s":2873,"word_count":312,"topic_slug":2847,"topic_label":2848,"target_id":2849,"target_proposition":2850,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":499,"rationale":2874,"indexable":274},413,"23569","Podremos hacer una revolución en el área de la salud que hoy los Estados Unidos no pueden hacer.",1827.56,1831.58,"afirma que la salud sufrirá una revolución posible con la tecnología.",{"idx":2876,"utterance_id":2877,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2878,"start_s":2879,"end_s":2880,"word_count":374,"topic_slug":2847,"topic_label":2848,"target_id":2849,"target_proposition":2850,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":2881,"rationale":2882,"indexable":274},414,"23570","Como Inglaterra está pensando en hacer, como lo hace El Salvador —mencionamos a Bukele hace un rato— lo está haciendo y su modelo es sensacional.",1832.04,1837.9,0.78,"elogia modelos externos y locales como 'sensacional', apoyando la idea.",{"idx":2884,"utterance_id":2885,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2886,"start_s":2887,"end_s":2888,"word_count":276,"topic_slug":2847,"topic_label":2848,"target_id":2849,"target_proposition":2850,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":2889,"indexable":274},415,"23571","Hablamos mucho de seguridad, pero el área de la salud es una revolución.",1837.94,1840.8,"sitúa la salud como prioridad revolucionaria en lugar de solo seguridad.",{"idx":2891,"utterance_id":2892,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2893,"start_s":2894,"end_s":2895,"word_count":328,"topic_slug":2807,"topic_label":2808,"target_id":2896,"target_proposition":2897,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":371,"rationale":2898,"indexable":274},416,"23572","Y entonces la centralidad del Estado, el papel articulador de fuerzas, ahora surgiendo también como un papel articulador de inteligencia, puede convertir a Brasil en un país no solo muy eficiente en la entrega de sus servicios, sino también muy poderoso.",1841.32,1854.62,"dc4c22fa-fd18-4aad-ba1a-1da897cc7805","fortalecer la centralidad del Estado como articulador usando tecnología e inteligencia artificial","defiende el papel articulador del Estado potenciado por la tecnología.",{"idx":2900,"utterance_id":2901,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2902,"start_s":2903,"end_s":2904,"word_count":502,"topic_slug":2905,"topic_label":2906,"target_id":2907,"target_proposition":2908,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":371,"rationale":2909,"indexable":274},417,"23573","Podemos usar las tierras raras, utilizando al Estado como, por ejemplo, un impulsor de esas empresas tecnológicas, que harán transferencia de tecnología con empresas estadounidenses; al explotar esos recursos, el Estado deja de ser un enemigo y pasa a ser un socio en esa construcción.",1855.08,1869.22,"politica-comercial","Política comercial","428e1996-cc9b-474b-9b0c-d9a0bda51759","atraer transferencia de tecnología y parte de la producción al Brasil","propone el uso del Estado como promotor para la explotación y transferencia tecnológica.",{"idx":2911,"utterance_id":2912,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2913,"start_s":2914,"end_s":2915,"word_count":233,"indexable":179},418,"23574","Y creo que ese futuro será próximo.",1869.34,1870.92,{"idx":2917,"utterance_id":2918,"speaker_name":174,"text":2919,"start_s":2920,"end_s":2921,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},419,"23575","Tenemos que terminar.",1871.14,1872.26,{"idx":2923,"utterance_id":2924,"speaker_name":174,"text":2925,"start_s":2926,"end_s":2927,"word_count":178,"indexable":179},420,"23576","Un minuto, si puedo también, Renan; a continuación, consideraciones finales.",1872.4,1875.92,{"idx":2929,"utterance_id":2930,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2931,"start_s":2932,"end_s":2933,"word_count":222,"indexable":179},421,"23577","De forma clara para nuestro espectador.",1876.24,1878.32,{"idx":2935,"utterance_id":2936,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2937,"start_s":2938,"end_s":2939,"word_count":9,"indexable":179},422,"23578","Te dijeron que tu futuro es vivir en una casa con muro, con miedo de salir a la calle porque te pueden robar el celular.",1878.38,1884.46,{"idx":2941,"utterance_id":2942,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2943,"start_s":2944,"end_s":2945,"word_count":283,"indexable":179},423,"23579","Teniendo un trabajo de mierda y viendo las grandes cosas del mundo ocurrir en otros países.",1884.92,1888.76,{"idx":2947,"utterance_id":2948,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2949,"start_s":2950,"end_s":2951,"word_count":209,"indexable":179},424,"23580","Estados Unidos, Japón, China, Corea.",1889.1,1890.62,{"idx":2953,"utterance_id":2954,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2955,"start_s":2956,"end_s":2957,"word_count":59,"indexable":179},425,"23581","Tú aquí en Brasil eres un espectador y como mucho 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tener imaginación, sueño y creer en las personas correctas, en el momento correcto.",1909.5,1913.26,{"idx":2995,"utterance_id":2996,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":2997,"start_s":2998,"end_s":2999,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":3000,"topic_label":3001,"target_id":3002,"target_proposition":3003,"stance":271,"stance_confidence":780,"rationale":3004,"indexable":274},431,"23587","No te quedes con esa historia de Lula y Bolsonaro.",1913.54,1915.14,"polarizacao-politica-e-divisao-do-pais","Polarización política","7515ee6f-b469-4db1-a2b3-734fe7ee9836","reducir la polarización política y promover la unidad nacional","dice 'Não fique nessa história de Lula e Bolsonaro', rechazando la polarización.",{"idx":3006,"utterance_id":3007,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":67,"text":3008,"start_s":3009,"end_s":3010,"word_count":202,"indexable":179},432,"23588","Eso es el 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