Desconhecido: This is complicated.
Desconhecido: Does anyone have any questions about this?
Rubinho called me; Rubinho is the guy doing our coordination, that the PSDB base in Congress will be with us there, and she is fighting with Aécio because of his decision.
Desconhecido: And so all that we thought we'd lost, we're back in the game.
Desconhecido: If this is a moment of rupture, the emergence of a new opposition that we might help lead, I don't know, I feel that it is.