Desconhecido: The problem... is that they lie brazenly.
Desconhecido: They never offered us that investment.
What the minister is talking about is the concession project to toll our state highways.
Desconhecido: Those more than 3,000 kilometers that we renovated with the Estrada Boa program, they wanted a company to fix them so they could then toll them.
Desconhecido: That's the so-called 24 billion.