Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: So I became a union member in 1968.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: I was already 23 years old.
And then, in 1979, they called my brother to be a director of the union.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: My brother didn't want to, because his factory already had a director.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: Then my brother took me there.