Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: Look, we created 22 million jobs in this country, man.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: We recovered more than one million jobs in the country's metallurgy sector.
We did, just in my eight-year term, we settled 59% of all Brazilian land made available for agrarian reform; it was done in my eight years of government.
Rogério Vilela: But all that hope, all that upward trajectory, what happened?
Rogério Vilela: that Brazil began to go wrong or to decline afterwards, even with the PT government.