Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: Because it has been there forever.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: The system is difficult.
You have a system made up of career civil service positions.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: They are people who do not depend on the government.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: They are civil servants who are there at a high level, in the Federal Revenue Service, in the Ministry of Finance, in Itamaraty, in Justice, in the Judiciary.