Renan Santos: Look, there are many models of political reform, this is a very difficult subject to discuss, but I'll try to summarize.
Renan Santos: What I think, and I think you'll understand.
In Brazil, all parties exist to participate in elections, to elect deputies, and the more deputies a party elects, the more money the party gets.
Renan Santos: I'll give an example.
Renan Santos: If a political party elects, let's say, 12 federal deputies, it earns almost 90 million reais per year.