Romeu Zema: That thing that every Brazilian, or 99% of Brazilians, have always known, which is to spend less than you earn.
Romeu Zema: Isn't that how Brazilians live?
But today we often have, within the public sector, a Lula who has always lived at the expense of the State and who always spends more than he earns.
Romeu Zema: And who is paying that bill is the Brazilian people, who are increasingly indebted, paying higher interest.
Romeu Zema: and with a worse life than they had before.