Romeu Zema: We have a structural problem in Brazil, which is a central state, in this case the federal government, that has spent every year more than it collects in revenue.
Romeu Zema: And many people who don't understand economics have no idea how negative that is, how pernicious it is for all Brazilians.
When the federal government does this, and Lula has been doing this with great intensity, unfortunately he is arming a time bomb.
Romeu Zema: The debt has only been growing.
Romeu Zema: With this growth of debt, Lorenzo, we have one of the highest interest rates in the world.