Ronaldo Caiado: No one else has that little story of yours.
Ronaldo Caiado: People want to move forward.
And moving forward means that no one will live with this backwardness of the PT anymore.
Ronaldo Caiado: He only talks about January 8 to this day; he only sticks to those theses, because he really hasn't managed to make progress since Jaturo Vargas.