What Tarcisio said about implement intercity trains (Campinas-SP, Sorocaba-SP, São José-SP) and invest in road interventions

Tarcisio: No one better, no one more experienced, no one with such a beautiful trajectory, no one who knew this state so well.

Tarcisio: And in the first meetings Afif said, 'you need to build legacy.'

The 30 Cidades, the Campinas–São Paulo Link, is part of building that legacy.

Tarcisio: São Paulo was born on the margins of the railways.

Tarcisio: And over time that faded.