Tarcisio: And we have been working very hard to make the state of São Paulo truly a safer state.
Tarcisio: Look at the reduction in cargo theft that we have had.
You can talk to any businessman there at CETSESP, at the transport union, about how it dropped by more than 25%.
Tarcisio: That is extremely significant.
Tarcisio: We're talking about costs that hit you right in the vein — Brazil's cost directly.