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173 classified statements · 2 politicians · June 20, 2026 · 15 min

Statements by Renan Santos, Kim Kataguiri. 173 excerpts classified by topic and stance. Topics: Presidential Elections, Role of the State, Monetary Policy, Government.

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  • Renan SantosRenan Santos92
  • Kim KataguiriKim Kataguiri43

Classified statements

Excerpts classified by topic and stance. This is not the full transcript of the video.

  1. Desconhecido

    0:00

    I want to know if you gave up your pre-candidacy for the governorship of the State of São Paulo.
  2. Kim Kataguiri

    0:04

    For

    About: run for elective office

    Yes, now I am running for re-election as a federal deputy and I now coordinate part of the team of the Ministry of State Reform.

    Why it was classified this way · 92% confidence Explicitly declares that he is now running for re-election and coordinating a ministry.

  3. Kim Kataguiri

    0:12

    For

    About: create a Ministry of State Reform to coordinate various areas

    As I put there, it is a ministry that will be cross-cutting, it will go across several sectors: the Ministry of Management, the Ministry of Labor, the Ministry of Social Security; it will work together with the Casa Civil and with the Secretariat for Institutional Relations.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Describes the ministry and its proposed transversal role.

  4. Kim Kataguiri

    0:28

    For

    About: assemble a technical economic team to implement the government plan

    And from now on, over the next two months, we will begin to announce and also coordinate the first names of our economic team.

    Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Announces that in the coming months he will coordinate and announce names for the economic team.

  5. Desconhecido

    0:38

    How did that choice come about, deputy?
  6. Desconhecido

    0:40

    You had numbers there in the poll for the government of São Paulo, there was talk of a possible alliance with Paulo Serra of PSDB to form a single candidacy.
  7. Desconhecido

    0:50

    How did that choice come about?
  8. Kim Kataguiri

    0:51

    For

    About: launch candidacy for Governor of São Paulo state

    Here in the State of São Paulo, either we will have Missão's own candidacy, or we will not support anyone.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence States the party's decision: either its own candidacy or support no one.

  9. Kim Kataguiri

    0:58

    That is our decision here within the State.
  10. Kim Kataguiri

    1:01

    For

    About: appoint a representative with Congressional experience to the government's Esplanade

    Our assessment — I know that for most of you this is not yet plausible, but for us it is a conviction that Renan will win the election and of the need to have someone at the Planalto with experience inside the National Congress, to have a technical team but at the same time a political leadership so we do not repeat, for example, there were technicians who lent credibility to the market.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Argues for having someone with legislative experience in the Esplanada.

  11. Kim Kataguiri

    1:25

    For

    About: unite competent technicians with responsible political leadership

    in Jair Bolsonaro's team, but the political leadership there, for example on the part of Paulo Guedes, was a disaster.

    Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Criticizes previous political leadership and proposes not repeating the mistake.

  12. Kim Kataguiri

    1:31

    For

    About: gather the best technicians to form the government team

    So we need — we will have the best technicians with us, and I mentioned earlier the several names that inspired me during my term(s) as a federal deputy, and I am 100% open to listening to each one of them.

    Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence Says they will have top experts and are open to listening to them.

  13. Kim Kataguiri

    1:47

    I'll tell you in advance, before anyone asks, I have not spoken with any of them, I have not invited any of them, but it will be from their source that I will draw.
  14. Kim Kataguiri

    1:54

    So that is what we based our decision on.
  15. Desconhecido

    2:00

    Renan, your speech today was very firm, both with the PT and with the right.
  16. Desconhecido

    2:04

    How do you intend to convince voters now that you are a more qualified option to assume both the presidency and your projects?
  17. Renan Santos

    2:12

    For

    About: present clear government proposals to voters

    Having proposals and not being a thief.

    Why it was classified this way · 92% confidence Explicitly says 'Tendo proposta' as a differentiator.

  18. Renan Santos

    2:14

    That already differentiates you from the two very quickly.
  19. Renan Santos

    2:17

    There will be a series of new statements from Mr. Vorcaro and we will not appear in them in any way.
  20. Renan Santos

    2:23

    For

    About: present clear government proposals to voters

    So, having serious proposals, we have a published book; we will debate in detail, in the minutiae, all the proposals for all areas — that will make a difference, it will create a very large contrast.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Announces a book and a thorough debate of proposals for all areas.

  21. Renan Santos

    2:33

    Neutral

    About: consider electoral viability as a factor in voting decisions

    The second issue, which is the question of the voter's decision-making, is viability.

    Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Explains that the second question for the voter is viability, without proposing direct action.

  22. Renan Santos

    2:39

    Neutral

    About: grow in the polls and gain momentum

    Well, we are already overtaking the governors, we are on an upward trend, we are gaining momentum across all sectors of society.

    Why it was classified this way · 72% confidence States they are already trending upward in the polls (status report).

  23. Renan Santos

    2:47

    From Faria Lima, we have had recent statements from very influential figures; I am very happy to receive their support.
  24. Renan Santos

    2:53

    Even from the grassroots of the Brazilian population — my recent return from Pará left me very surprised and very happy.
  25. Renan Santos

    2:59

    And this moment will also add to an obvious finding: that Flávio Bolsonaro has no chance of defeating Lula.
  26. Renan Santos

    3:04

    For a matter of logic, people have also made a pragmatic decision to look to the one who is viable, who is coming in third, to put him in second, and then, as Kim says, it's a second-round story.
  27. Renan Santos

    3:18

    What is your position, sir, on our voting system?
  28. Renan Santos

    3:25

    For us, this story is closed.
  29. Renan Santos

    3:27

    This is not something we're putting up for debate.
  30. Desconhecido

    3:30

    Just to understand, you—although the deputy didn't accept being a candidate for governor—will Missão have a candidate here in São Paulo?
  31. Desconhecido

    3:42

    You said it could be a... This decision will be made soon, is that right?
  32. Desconhecido

    3:47

    Either having a candidate or not having one, or not supporting anyone?
  33. Renan Santos

    3:50

    So will you then be without a campaign platform in São Paulo, Renan?
  34. Renan Santos

    3:54

    For

    About: run a campaign without relying on platforms or alliances

    When I said earlier that I don't believe in this 'palanque' idea, it's because I think it's an old political term, where you need a structure, an ally, to be able to hold an event, to be able to gain access to the press.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Says he doesn't believe in campaign platforms and doesn't need an ally for events.

  35. Renan Santos

    4:06

    For

    About: run a campaign without relying on platforms or alliances

    I don't need that for my candidacy or pre-candidacy.

    Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Reiterates that he doesn't need a platform or an ally to run his campaign.

  36. Renan Santos

    4:09

    For

    About: run a campaign without relying on platforms or alliances

    Honestly, I can hold all my events and run our agendas without having an ally or a candidate.

    Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Says he can hold events and run agendas without an ally.

  37. Renan Santos

    4:14

    For

    About: use new digital and community-based approaches in the campaign (strategy 3.0)

    Our political logic is, let's call it, 3.0—it's not even about the internet anymore, it's post-internet.

    Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence Defines the campaign's political logic as '3.0', post-internet.

  38. Renan Santos

    4:20

    For

    About: use a campaign strategy based on social media and communities

    Social networks—community-based.

    Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Cites social media and communities as the basis for the pre-campaign and campaign.

  39. Renan Santos

    4:22

    For

    About: use a campaign strategy based on social media and communities

    We have a highly engaged community and that allows us to pre-campaign and campaign without needing that.

    Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence Says an engaged community allows a pre-campaign without allies.

  40. Desconhecido

    4:27

    Who would be Missão's possible candidates for Governor now that he won't be?
  41. Kim Kataguiri

    4:31

    For

    About: launch candidacy for Governor of São Paulo state

    Well, first, Zanini, our choice is either to have our own candidacy or to not have one and not support anyone.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Reiterates the party's option: run its own candidate or support no one.

  42. Kim Kataguiri

    4:38

    I think that needs to be clear from the outset.
  43. Kim Kataguiri

    4:42

    For

    About: launch candidacy for Governor of São Paulo state

    Second point... We are talking with some people, some figures who are affiliated with the Missão party; there will be no coalition in the state of São Paulo, unless something extraordinary happens, but these are our own cadres and we can't tell you about them yet.

    Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence States there will be no coalition in the state, preferring its own people.

  44. Kim Kataguiri

    4:58

    In a
  45. Desconhecido

    4:58

    scenario
  46. Desconhecido

    4:59

    hypothetical, in the second round,
  47. Desconhecido

    5:01

    imagine it's Tarcísio
  48. Desconhecido

    5:02

    and Fernando Haddad, you wouldn't support
  49. Kim Kataguiri

    5:04

    anyone?
  50. Kim Kataguiri

    5:05

    We won't talk about the second round before we define our candidate in the first.
  51. Kim Kataguiri

    5:10

    So the polls indicate that if you are not the candidate, Tarcísio's chance of winning in the first round is very high.
  52. Kim Kataguiri

    5:15

    What do you have to say about that?
  53. Kim Kataguiri

    5:17

    Look, I think that's a matter of concern for Tarcísio's campaign.
  54. Kim Kataguiri

    5:22

    I think that inevitably, if we have our own candidacy, even if the name isn't mine, I very much doubt that any candidate will win in the first round.
  55. Desconhecido

    5:33

    You mentioned several economists who could be contributors.
  56. Desconhecido

    5:37

    Could any of them become the economic spokesperson for the presidential campaign?
  57. Desconhecido

    5:42

    A 'posto Ipiranga' for Renan, something like that?
  58. Kim Kataguiri

    5:45

    Look, I don't envision us having a backer, a reference who will be the 'posto Ipiranga', so to speak.
  59. Kim Kataguiri

    5:56

    First, there's also a fundamental difference between Renan's candidacy, ours from the Missão Party, and Jair Bolsonaro.
  60. Kim Kataguiri

    6:02

    Jair Bolsonaro knew absolutely nothing about economics.
  61. Kim Kataguiri

    6:05

    For

    About: assemble a technical economic team to implement the government plan

    We have our program already consolidated, which, by the way, will be published soon; we just finished revising the entire economic section of the yellow book, so we have a plan, we have a project, Renan knows how to speak about this plan, I know how to speak about this plan, so the first point is that we don't need an economic savior; but the idea is that we will announce from now on, as invitations start to be made over the next two months, respected names from academia and the financial market for our economic team.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Says he has a revised economic program and will announce respected names for the team.

  62. Desconhecido

    6:37

    Of course, this decision and your strategy with the attempt at re-election as deputy, also a position in the ministry, but of course, taking into account that you would then have a caucus, you would be the caucus leader, participate in caucus leadership meetings, would that, in your view, yield more benefits than attempting an election in São Paulo?
  63. Renan Santos

    6:58

    It's that if he becomes—sorry to interrupt—if he becomes a minister he can't be caucus leader.
  64. Renan Santos

    7:02

    And in fact his position in the National Congress would be taken by an alternate.
  65. Renan Santos

    7:06

    So he would have an executive role.
  66. Renan Santos

    7:09

    For

    About: create a super-ministry to articulate agendas and coordinate ministries

    And his role would be the executive role of a super-minister in our government.

    Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Claims he would have an executive role as 'super-ministro' to coordinate forces.

  67. Renan Santos

    7:13

    Because one of the classic issues is to solve this vice that remained in our political camp, the 'posto Ipiranga' one—the idea that the president is inept and then puts people in who will run the agendas in the respective ministries.
  68. Renan Santos

    7:26

    We, as a party, build the agenda beforehand.
  69. Renan Santos

    7:28

    So the agenda is already ready and we will invite people who endorse that agenda, who have management capacity, and we, as the original political group—the group that came from within the BR that founded the party—we will have a ministry, a super ministry to articulate those forces.
  70. Renan Santos

    7:41

    For

    About: reurbanize favelas and relocate families from high-risk areas

    Also, I can't talk about desfavelização (slum elimination) without talking about infrastructure, and without talking, for example, about a spending cut in terms of state expenditure.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence States that slum elimination requires infrastructure, formalization, and investments.

  71. Renan Santos

    7:48

    For

    About: centralize the management of the public health system and integrate it with technology and machine learning

    I can't talk about improving healthcare without talking about artificial intelligence in the SUS, a unified medical record.

    Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Says improving health requires AI in the SUS and a unified medical record.

  72. Renan Santos

    7:53

    How are we going to change that machine?
  73. Renan Santos

    7:55

    Here's the bomb I'm dropping in his lap.
  74. Renan Santos

    7:57

    But it's a bomb that already comes with a thesis, with studies, with what our group has previously built.
  75. Desconhecido

    8:01

    Does that alternate already exist?
  76. Desconhecido

    8:04

    No, it depends on the order of the candidates on the ballot, right?
  77. Desconhecido

    8:07

    We don't know how many votes each one will get.
  78. Desconhecido

    8:10

    How many candidates do you intend to elect?
  79. Desconhecido

    8:12

    Federal and state?
  80. Desconhecido

    8:13

    Ah, all of them.
  81. Desconhecido

    8:14

    513.
  82. Desconhecido

    8:14

    All of them?
  83. Desconhecido

    8:17

    From São Paulo?
  84. Desconhecido

    8:18

    2, 3?
  85. Desconhecido

    8:18

    70.
  86. Desconhecido

    8:19

    No, but this is a question that...
  87. Renan Santos

    8:23

    It's a numbers game, right?
  88. Renan Santos

    8:24

    No, it's a calculation.
  89. Renan Santos

    8:25

    For example, if it's a real-time, big data poll.
  90. Renan Santos

    8:27

    If the election were today, I'd have 10% for governor of the state of São Paulo.
  91. Renan Santos

    8:31

    If I applied a proportion in line with what Almoedo got in party-list votes — Partido Novo — he scored 35%.
  92. Renan Santos

    8:36

    35% here in São Paulo — let's say São Paulo has 20 million voters — if I were to get that.
  93. Renan Santos

    8:44

    10 are 2 million, 35 are 700 thousand.
  94. Renan Santos

    8:47

    That's two seats in one third.
  95. Renan Santos

    8:50

    That's just what I'd contribute, aside from the votes he'd and the others would have.
  96. Desconhecido

    8:52

    Right, from the party list — he's not counting the individual votes.
  97. Renan Santos

    8:55

    So, adding up, I think we'd get at least one of those seats.
  98. Renan Santos

    8:59

    Neutral

    About: elect federal deputies for the party

    Five seats for federal deputy.

    Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Makes an electoral projection and an expected number of seats based on polls.

  99. Renan Santos

    9:01

    In today's scenario, according to Real Time Data, which is a type of poll with a method I don't really agree with.
  100. Renan Santos

    9:06

    That said, as I'm going to grow a lot, I think the sky's the limit; I think to run for president I have to get at least 15% in São Paulo.
  101. Desconhecido

    9:11

    Candidate, what would 'desfabilização' be, in summary?
  102. Renan Santos

    9:17

    It's literally 'desfabilização'.
  103. Renan Santos

    9:18

    What is a favela?
  104. Renan Santos

    9:19

    Not being a favela anymore.
  105. Renan Santos

    9:20

    It's the idea of going to a neighborhood that today has no basic sanitation.
  106. Renan Santos

    9:26

    Where people don't have property titles for their homes, where educational indicators are lower, where teenage pregnancy is more prevalent, where in almost all cases organized crime is present, where constructions were not authorized by city hall, and which generally originate from an invasion.
  107. Renan Santos

    9:42

    These constructions are the target of a revitalizing action by the State, which transforms that into a neighborhood—with streets, harmonization, with law and order—treating those people in a dignified manner.
  108. Renan Santos

    9:54

    For

    About: reurbanize favelas and relocate families from high-risk areas

    And with very heavy investments, through a reverse auction policy, so that in 10 years Brazil no longer has favelas.

    Why it was classified this way · 92% confidence Explicitly proposes reverse auctions and investments to eliminate slums within 10 years.

  109. Renan Santos

    10:00

    The idea is to create a monopoly over the process of favela-ization.
  110. Renan Santos

    10:02

    So when we talk about this, we are speaking very much in literal terms.
  111. Renan Santos

    10:05

    It's literally understanding that a country without favelas is not a serious country.
  112. Renan Santos

    10:08

    A serious country doesn't have favelas.
  113. Renan Santos

    10:10

    We can't, as a serious political group, accept that our own country is like this.
  114. Desconhecido

    10:14

    Just to understand a bit better what this super-ministry would be: would it be a ministry that replaces ministries like Finance and Planning, or would it be another ministry in addition to these traditional ones that would coordinate several areas?
  115. Kim Kataguiri

    10:29

    It's a new ministry that would coordinate several areas, would encompass some secretariats of the Finance Ministry, but I think one of the main ones would be management.
  116. Kim Kataguiri

    10:39

    For

    About: implement pension reform

    That of Social Security as well, which we will necessarily have to reform, and one of my missions is to promote that reform in dialogue with the National Congress.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Declares a mission to promote pension reform in dialogue with the Congress.

  117. Kim Kataguiri

    10:48

    I think it would also cover labor, planning, and political coordination, operating in a manner similar to the Casa Civil and the Secretariat of Institutional Relations, while coordinating with Congress and managing the agenda.
  118. Kim Kataguiri

    11:05

    Of the main items on the agendas of all ministries that involve state reform and the approval of that agenda in Congress.
  119. Desconhecido

    11:11

    And would it be a ministry that would operate directly in the Planalto (Presidential Palace)?
  120. Desconhecido

    11:13

    Were you going to turn the Planalto (Presidential Palace) into a startup?
  121. Desconhecido

    11:17

    Renan, what conditions would you put forward for the Congress in the event of a presidential victory?
  122. Desconhecido

    11:23

    How would you articulate, how would you manage your governability with Congress?
  123. Renan Santos

    11:27

    I cited an article in Valete, which is our publication.
  124. Renan Santos

    11:32

    Recently, about five days ago, putting the criteria on the table.
  125. Renan Santos

    11:36

    I have no problem forming coalitions, as long as it's not with people who, for example, were on Borcaro's little jet, who have recently frequented Trancoso.
  126. Renan Santos

    11:44

    I will not form a coalition with someone who is interested in the infamous 'porteira fechada'.
  127. Renan Santos

    11:47

    Instead of closed-door secrecy, that won't exist in our government.
  128. Renan Santos

    11:50

    For

    About: make public the criteria for government composition

    For the first time we're going to make an agreement, make public to everyone what the terms will be for composing a government.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Announces that, for the first time, they will agree on and make public the terms of the composition.

  129. Renan Santos

    11:55

    And then we'll sit down to talk.
  130. Renan Santos

    11:57

    Does PSD want to talk?
  131. Renan Santos

    11:58

    Let's talk, PSD.
  132. Renan Santos

    11:59

    Ah, you'd really like to take care of that area, let's put here, the Ministry of Cities.
  133. Renan Santos

    12:04

    They love cities; it's the party that sells cities the most.
  134. Renan Santos

    12:06

    For

    About: implement the Managerial Responsibility Law for city management

    Okay, look, we have a plan called the Law of Managerial Responsibility.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence points to having a plan called Lei de Responsabilidade Gerencial for cities.

  135. Renan Santos

    12:10

    Want to run it with us?
  136. Renan Santos

    12:11

    No, I have another idea.
  137. Renan Santos

    12:12

    Oh, what a pity.
  138. Renan Santos

    12:13

    There will be no closed gates in this.
  139. Renan Santos

    12:15

    So we'll open up to talk with everyone.
  140. Renan Santos

    12:17

    Besides, blind nations have coalition governments.
  141. Renan Santos

    12:20

    We are, par excellence, made up of democrats.
  142. Renan Santos

    12:23

    We are a democratic group.
  143. Renan Santos

    12:25

    That said, the criteria have to be on the table.
  144. Renan Santos

    12:27

    We have to requalify the way we form government in Brazil so it's not the mess we know today.
  145. Renan Santos

    12:33

    Today it's a mess.
  146. Renan Santos

    12:34

    Today you don't know the criteria that made PMDB come to join Lula's government.
  147. Renan Santos

    12:38

    That PSD was in Bolsonaro's previous government and now is in Lula's.
  148. Renan Santos

    12:41

    Why?
  149. Renan Santos

    12:43

    What led them to do that?
  150. Renan Santos

    12:44

    People have to know.
  151. Renan Santos

    12:46

    And the terms are in the article.
  152. Renan Santos

    12:47

    The defense of a very clear agenda.
  153. Renan Santos

    12:50

    For

    About: require parties joining the government to subscribe to an agenda

    The subscription, that is, they will subscribe to that agenda.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence says that joining the government will require clear endorsement of the agenda.

  154. Renan Santos

    12:53

    Because if you join a government, you join because of an agenda.
  155. Renan Santos

    12:57

    If it's not because of an agenda, it's because of some issue that's not clear.
  156. Renan Santos

    13:00

    So it will be through the subscription to an agenda and the joint work on that agenda.
  157. Renan Santos

    13:04

    In São Paulo, would it be a speaking mission on a ticket with some other party, or would it be a single-party candidacy?
  158. Kim Kataguiri

    13:10

    For

    About: launch the Mission party's pure-blood candidacy

    It should be a single-party candidacy.

    Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence states that, initially, the candidacy will be 'puro sangue' of the party.

  159. Kim Kataguiri

    13:11

    Now, once again, Brazilian politics, it... We never know what will happen, but we know that something we don't know will happen.
  160. Kim Kataguiri

    13:21

    The imponderable increasingly becomes the rule.
  161. Kim Kataguiri

    13:24

    So, at first no, but we don't know what the scenario will be in one or two months.
  162. Kim Kataguiri

    13:29

    We don't know what the presidential polls will look like, what the polls for the state government will look like.
  163. Kim Kataguiri

    13:35

    Actually, in the moment we live in, we don't even know who will be free.
  164. Kim Kataguiri

    13:38

    We know that we will be.
  165. Kim Kataguiri

    13:39

    Now the others... This?
  166. Kim Kataguiri

    13:42

    Thank you, folks.
  167. Desconhecido

    13:43

    Thank you very much.
  168. Kim Kataguiri

    13:45

    I will never again promise to give up security.
  169. Kim Kataguiri

    13:48

    In my two terms, by promise, by commitment to each one of you, I, by giving up security, could hire through a parliamentary quota.
  170. Kim Kataguiri

    13:56

    But in this campaign, now with our own party, with a pre-candidate for the Presidency of the Republic on the rise, more than ever we are a real threat to organized crime.
  171. Kim Kataguiri

    14:05

    For

    About: adopt private security and an armored car during campaigns and terms in office

    And that's why this will be the first election in which, already during the campaign, I'll have to hire security and an armored car.

    Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence announces that they will need to hire security and an armored car already during the campaign.

  172. Kim Kataguiri

    14:13

    For

    About: combat the PCC and the Comando Vermelho with Brazilian police and support from the Armed Forces

    I ask for your help, your contribution, because we are the only national project that threatens PCC and Comando Vermelho.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence says that their project is the only threat to the PCC and Comando Vermelho.

  173. Kim Kataguiri

    14:21

    Therefore, in this goal of having enough resources to hire security, to hire the armored car, I ask for your contribution to my fundraiser; the link will be below.

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