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HADDAD RESPONDE: O FUTURO DA SABESP
152 classified statements · 1 politicians · June 23, 2026 · 10 min
Statements by Fernando Haddad. 152 excerpts classified by topic and stance. Topics: Privatizations and Economic Policy, Political Ideology, Concession Policy, Public Management.
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Desconhecido
0:00
That became a bit strange over these years.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
0:01
About: privatize state-owned companies
And, on the contrary, we still saw the government pursuing a privatization agenda.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Reports that the government maintained a privatization agenda, without expressing explicit support.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
0:05
About: concede public services to the private sector
That was the case with the prisons, for example — a case that was even kind of strange, leaving the government's agenda, coming from the government's agenda, privatizations.
Why it was classified this way · 60% confidence mentions a past proposal to privatize prisons, describing it as 'meio estranho'.
Desconhecido
0:17
Put that on the table for us a bit.
Desconhecido
0:18
What is your understanding of this?
- Neutral
Desconhecido
0:20
About: concede public services to the private sector
I haven't heard of prison privatization.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence denies being aware of prison privatization — factual assertion.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
0:24
About: concede public services to the private sector
There were proposals earlier to privatize prisons.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence states that proposals arose in the past — factual report.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
0:27
About: concede public services to the private sector
Maybe, but it didn't go forward.
Why it was classified this way · 72% confidence says that the proposal 'não deu curso', describing the outcome.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
0:29
About: concede public services to the private sector
It didn't proceed, but it came from the government itself.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence attributes the origin of the proposal to the government itself — account of responsibility.
Desconhecido
0:31
Which was kind of like that, right?
- Neutral
Desconhecido
0:32
About: adopt neoliberal policies
I said, damn, it would be the neoliberal PT.
Why it was classified this way · 55% confidence uses the label ('PT neoliberal') as a surprise, without a clear proposal.
Fernando Haddad
0:36
Well, let's break it down.
Fernando Haddad
0:37
About: privatize state-owned companies
First of all I... There are two ways to privatize, let's say.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence explains two forms of privatization — descriptive statement.
Fernando Haddad
0:44
There's privatization that is the sale of assets.
Desconhecido
0:46
All the rivers, for example, right?
Fernando Haddad
0:47
Which is the sale of assets.
Fernando Haddad
0:48
About: privatize state-owned companies
So, when you sell Eletrobras, that is the sale of assets, you're selling assets.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence gives the example that selling Eletrobras is selling off patrimony — factual explanation.
Desconhecido
0:56
The other is a concession, do you mean?
Fernando Haddad
0:58
About: concede public services to the private sector
And the other is a concession.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence defines a concession as a form distinct from privatization.
Fernando Haddad
0:59
About: grant infrastructure concessions
But there are concessions that I, personally, am against.
Why it was classified this way · 92% confidence explicitly declares 'sou contra' regarding certain concessions.
Fernando Haddad
1:04
About: grant infrastructure concessions
There are concessions that I don't see any reason for.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence reaffirms that they see no reason for certain concessions.
Fernando Haddad
1:06
About: privatize state-owned companies
For example, here in São Paulo, the sale of Sabesp.
Why it was classified this way · 72% confidence cites the sale of Sabesp as an example — informative statement.
Fernando Haddad
1:10
About: maintain Petrobras as a state-owned company
I think it's a scandal.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence calls the sale of Sabesp a 'escândalo' — criticism of the past privatization.
Fernando Haddad
1:12
And I said that in 2022, in front of Tarcísio, who was ambiguous.
Fernando Haddad
1:16
Because he's ambiguous about everything, have you noticed?
Fernando Haddad
1:18
You ask him if he's Bolsonaro, he says, 'look', he distances himself from Flávio, he gets closer to Flávio, depending on what suits him.
Fernando Haddad
1:26
Are you going to sell this BESP?
Fernando Haddad
1:27
I'll look into it.
Fernando Haddad
1:28
By the third month the company was already being billed.
Fernando Haddad
1:32
Look at what happened to this BESP.
Fernando Haddad
1:34
About: ensure competitive, transparent public procurements
They made so many rules throughout the bidding process that it ended up with one bidder, Equatorial, which wasn't even in the sector.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence alleges clauses steered the bidding, calling for competitive procedures.
Fernando Haddad
1:44
It wasn't even in the sector.
Desconhecido
1:45
Which just won in Minas Gerais the... Yeah, just watch.
Fernando Haddad
1:48
So, it ended up with Equatorial.
Fernando Haddad
1:49
About: ensure competitive, transparent public procurements
The other two withdrew because of the clauses they kept adding to the tender notice.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence says others withdrew because of clauses in the tender notice — criticism of the process.
Fernando Haddad
1:55
About: ensure competitive, transparent public procurements
The two realized that the governor was steering the bidding process.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence accuses the governor of steering the tender — calls for transparency.
Fernando Haddad
2:01
And they backed out.
Fernando Haddad
2:02
EGE, for example, which participated in Rio de Janeiro, won two of the four lots.
Fernando Haddad
2:07
In the metropolitan region, it dropped out of the game.
Fernando Haddad
2:09
It could have entered.
Fernando Haddad
2:10
Why did it drop out?
Fernando Haddad
2:11
Why didn't it make an offer?
Fernando Haddad
2:13
About: ensure competitive, transparent public procurements
Because it realized that the state government was steering the tender.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence says a competitor perceived steering — complains of lack of transparency.
Fernando Haddad
2:18
And it steered it.
Fernando Haddad
2:20
Well, then to make matters worse, one guy goes there and makes an offer.
Fernando Haddad
2:23
About sixty-something reais per share.
Desconhecido
2:26
A profitable company, right?
Fernando Haddad
2:28
About: privatize state-owned companies
A company that was making a profit.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence states that the company was profitable — information about the asset sold.
Fernando Haddad
2:29
About: privatize state-owned companies
Sabesp always made a profit.
Why it was classified this way · 72% confidence reiterates that Sabesp always made a profit — factual claim.
Fernando Haddad
2:30
About: maintain Petrobras as a state-owned company
Then he goes and sells it.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence criticizes the sale of a profitable company — implies support for keeping it public.
Fernando Haddad
2:32
About: maintain Petrobras as a state-owned company
He sold 15% of Sabesp to... to Equatorial, at a price convenient to Equatorial because it was the only bidder, it made the offer alone, and then he sold the other 17%.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence reports a sale of a stake under conditions favorable to the buyer, criticizing it.
Fernando Haddad
2:47
About: maintain Petrobras as a state-owned company
He sold on the stock exchange, with the share at eighty-something?
Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence questions the price and sale mechanism — criticism of the privatization process.
Fernando Haddad
2:51
No.
Fernando Haddad
2:52
About: maintain Petrobras as a state-owned company
He called a group of investors and chose to whom he sold the other 17% at the price that Equatorial paid for the 15% in the bidding in which only it participated.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence denounces the selection of buyers by convenient criteria — opposes the method of sale.
Fernando Haddad
3:06
Hey, wait a minute.
Fernando Haddad
3:08
About: ensure competitive, transparent public procurements
It's a rigged game.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence calls the process a 'jogo de cartas marcadas' — complains of lack of impartiality.
Fernando Haddad
3:10
Everyone knows it was a rigged game.
Fernando Haddad
3:14
Everyone knows.
Fernando Haddad
3:15
If you talk to the public works sectors, everyone says in a meeting what I'm telling you.
Fernando Haddad
3:25
But nobody has the courage to say publicly that it was the...
- For
Desconhecido
3:28
About: challenge irregular public tenders at the Court of Accounts
And shouldn't the State Court of Auditors have impugned this tender?
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence asks whether the TCE should not have challenged the irregular bidding.
Fernando Haddad
3:32
About: investigate irregularities in public procurement by the MPF
Look, I don't know... What did the Public Prosecutor's Office think of that?
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence asks what position the Public Prosecutor's Office took on the case.
Fernando Haddad
3:36
About: investigate bidding irregularities by the Court of Accounts
What did the Court of Auditors think of that?
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence asks what the Court of Auditors' understanding was regarding the bidding.
Fernando Haddad
3:37
Because I know what I thought about it and I'm saying it.
Fernando Haddad
3:39
Because I'm a public official and I have the right to have my opinion.
Fernando Haddad
3:44
About: maintain Petrobras as a state-owned company
I would never sell this BESP.
Why it was classified this way · 93% confidence explicitly declares 'jamais venderia essa Sabesp' — clear commitment.
Fernando Haddad
3:46
About: privatize state-owned companies
And if I were, for any reason, forced to sell, by law or whatever, it would never be in the way it was sold.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence says that if forced to sell, they would not do it that way.
Fernando Haddad
3:55
So you have the biggest complaint at PROCON today, what's that?
Fernando Haddad
3:58
This BESP.
Fernando Haddad
4:00
The biggest profit, the largest profit increase of a utility company, which one is it?
Fernando Haddad
4:03
Sabesp.
Fernando Haddad
4:05
About: reduce water tariffs
The increase in the water bill that he said he would reduce was caused by Sabesp.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence states that the water bill went up instead of down — factual report.
Fernando Haddad
4:12
About: ensure and improve the quality of supplied water
The water quality has worsened.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence states that water quality has declined — an observation about the public service.
Fernando Haddad
4:14
So, what are we talking about?
Fernando Haddad
4:15
About: form municipal consortia for sanitation concessions
And another thing, now he's pressuring the interior mayors to join a program called Universaliza.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence states that mayors are being pressured to enter the 'Universaliza' program.
Fernando Haddad
4:28
About: form municipal consortia for sanitation concessions
In the other half of the state not served by Sabesp, he's going to form a consortium there to sell.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence reports a plan to create consortia for areas not served by Sabesp.
Fernando Haddad
4:33
To whom?
Fernando Haddad
4:34
To Sabesp.
Fernando Haddad
4:34
About: concentrate water services in a single concessionaire
So you're going to have the entire state of São Paulo in the hands of one water utility company?
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence questions the risk of a state monopoly, calling the idea 'loucura'.
Fernando Haddad
4:40
About: concentrate water services in a single concessionaire
That's madness.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence expresses strong disapproval ('isso é uma loucura') of centralization.
- Against
Desconhecido
4:41
About: concentrate water services in a single concessionaire
It's a compulsory madness, it can't be done.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence agrees with criticism of centralization and opposes regional monopoly.
Fernando Haddad
4:43
About: concentrate water services in a single concessionaire
But even from the point of view, first you don't have economies of scale, because you have municipalities with 20,000 inhabitants.
Why it was classified this way · 82% confidence argues that small municipalities would not gain economies of scale.
Fernando Haddad
4:50
That capture water, treat it, distribute it, collect sewage, treat the sewage and dispose of it.
Fernando Haddad
4:57
And it's solved in that area.
Fernando Haddad
4:59
Several municipalities in São Paulo have managed to work out the problem.
Fernando Haddad
5:03
About: form municipal consortia for sanitation concessions
And he will be imposing on, pressuring the mayors.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence says mayors will be coerced to join — opposes that imposition.
Fernando Haddad
5:07
About: guarantee municipalities' autonomy in sanitation management
If I'm elected, I'll put an end to that.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence promises 'acabar com isso' if elected — an explicit commitment.
Fernando Haddad
5:09
About: guarantee municipalities' autonomy in sanitation management
Mayors won't be pressured.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence reaffirms that mayors will not be coerced — a programmatic position.
Fernando Haddad
5:11
I will treat mayors the way the federal government treats mayors.
Fernando Haddad
5:16
No one will look at party affiliation.
Fernando Haddad
5:19
No one looks at us.
Fernando Haddad
5:20
About: release BNDES credit lines to states
To give you an idea, how much credit line did Bolsonaro release to São Paulo from BNDES?
Why it was classified this way · 60% confidence asks comparatively about the credit release from BNDES.
Fernando Haddad
5:28
3 billion.
Fernando Haddad
5:30
Because he didn't like Dória, right?
Fernando Haddad
5:33
He used to call him 'tight-pants', those kinds of things.
Fernando Haddad
5:37
How much did Lula release to Tarcísio?
Fernando Haddad
5:39
13.7 billion.
Fernando Haddad
5:41
About: release BNDES credit lines to states
From 3 to 13.7 billion.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence reports amounts released, a factual account about credit.
Fernando Haddad
5:43
Then Tarcísio comes... 'Oh, but I'll have to pay.'
Fernando Haddad
5:47
You're not going to have to pay, do you know why?
Fernando Haddad
5:48
About: renegotiate state debt with the Union
Because we reduced the state's debt service with the Union by 11 billion per year.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence claims action by 'nós' that reduced debt service — defense of the measure.
Fernando Haddad
5:55
Tarcísio will, for the State of São Paulo, because of President Lula, Rodrigo Pacheco and myself, pay 11 billion less per year in debt service.
Fernando Haddad
6:08
He still lost 11 billion, do you know why?
Fernando Haddad
6:10
Because he delayed a year in joining the program.
Fernando Haddad
6:13
About: join the fiscal recovery regime to renegotiate the state's debt
That is, he... wasted Massabesp just because of the delay in joining Propag, and nobody says anything.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence criticizes the delay in joining that caused financial loss, and advocates rapid adoption.
Fernando Haddad
6:20
The press says nothing.
Fernando Haddad
6:21
About: investigate suspicious negotiations involving amendment submissions
That would at least warrant opening an investigation to be examined by the Public Prosecutor's Office.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence states the case would justify opening an inquiry by the Public Ministry.
Fernando Haddad
6:28
What is the point of delaying the State of São Paulo's joining by a year and giving up 11 billion, paying R$11 billion more in debt service?
Fernando Haddad
6:37
Then, when he realized, he ran to join so as not to lose the second year.
Fernando Haddad
6:41
He almost lost it.
Fernando Haddad
6:43
He almost lost it.
Fernando Haddad
6:44
That is, he's an amateur.
Fernando Haddad
6:48
It's an amateur administration.
Fernando Haddad
6:50
Look, I've always opposed the governments of São Paulo.
Fernando Haddad
6:55
I've always opposed them.
Fernando Haddad
6:56
But I recognized in Montoro, Covas, Alckmin and Serra the merits of serious administrators.
Fernando Haddad
7:04
What is happening now is not comparable.
Fernando Haddad
7:07
And I'm speaking from the bottom of my Paulista heart — I'm saying, look, I'm outraged by what's happening in São Paulo.
Fernando Haddad
7:14
About: combat corruption in the state administration
Because of blind ideological adherence, people don't want to see what's happening with security, what's happening with education, what's happening with health, what's happening with privatizations, what's happening with finances, the holes where there is corruption, in the Finance Secretariat, in the Agriculture Secretariat.
Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence mentions 'buracos onde tem corrupção' and calls for confronting it.
Fernando Haddad
7:35
A number of problems are occurring and we are playing a fla-flu.
Fernando Haddad
7:40
And it's not good for the State of São Paulo, which is this powerhouse, to be playing fla-flu.
Fernando Haddad
7:44
About: base public policies on data and evidence
Let's look at the data, let's look at what's happening, let's give our state a direction.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence advocates looking at the data and giving the State direction.
Fernando Haddad
7:50
Including, to hold the current governor accountable — the one who wants to get elected, he didn't want to, right?
Fernando Haddad
7:54
He wanted to stay three years here and move up to the Planalto (Presidential Palace); he didn't put down roots here.
Fernando Haddad
7:59
But since he wants to stay, he has to say what he will do differently, because what he's done so far has been to move backwards.
Fernando Haddad
8:06
That's what's happened in São Paulo — we're moving backwards.
Desconhecido
8:09
I'm known.
Desconhecido
8:10
Before we continue talking about São Paulo, just answer this part about interest rates for me.
Fernando Haddad
8:15
About: maintain monetary policy with high interest rates
I am critical, I was critical of Roberto Câmara's administration.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence states having been critical of the management and the monetary policy applied.
Fernando Haddad
8:22
One thing is to have friendship, familiarity — that's normal.
Fernando Haddad
8:28
About: maintain Central Bank autonomy
But the Central Bank is an autonomous entity; it is not part of the government.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence explains that the Central Bank is autonomous and accountable to society.
Fernando Haddad
8:33
It has its own policy, it has a mandate.
Fernando Haddad
8:37
There the guy does what he wants and is accountable to society, not to the government.
Fernando Haddad
8:44
About: maintain monetary policy with high interest rates
I am critical of the monetary policy.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence explicitly states he/she is critical of the current monetary policy.
Fernando Haddad
8:46
I think we continued a monetary policy, in my opinion very aggressive, very 'rockish', as they say in the market.
Fernando Haddad
8:56
It's tightening too much.
Fernando Haddad
8:58
And then you say, 'no, but inflation is getting out of hand.'
Fernando Haddad
9:03
About: control inflation
Look, inflation had been falling until the Iran war.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence attributes inflationary trends to an external shock (war), explaining the causes.
Fernando Haddad
9:07
Who provoked the Iran war?
Fernando Haddad
9:08
Was it Brazil?
Fernando Haddad
9:09
No.
Fernando Haddad
9:10
About: adopt an independent foreign policy toward China and the United States
It was Bolsonaro's allies who provoked that war.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence attributes responsibility to allies for the external shock and criticizes the alignment.
Fernando Haddad
9:15
That inflation spike is an external shock that the whole world is paying for because of that war.
Fernando Haddad
9:23
You close the Strait of Hormuz, through which 20–30% of the world's oil passes.
Fernando Haddad
9:28
Do you think that's just going to blow over?
Fernando Haddad
9:30
No.
Fernando Haddad
9:31
So we're paying the price, we and the whole world.
Fernando Haddad
9:35
About: adopt an independent foreign policy toward China and the United States
We are paying the price for the irresponsibility of a president who has the support of Bolsonarism, even when he acts against Brazil.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence calls the actions of those who supported harmful alignments 'irresponsabilidade'.
Fernando Haddad
9:44
About: respect STF decisions and hold conspirators accountable
And then Eduardo Bolsonaro, who campaigned against Brazil at the White House, who campaigned against one of the powers of the Republic at the White House, was convicted by the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) and Tarcísio goes there and criticizes the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) because it convicted, according to the law, Eduardo Bolsonaro, who was conspiring against Brazil.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence supports condemnation by the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) and criticizes those who publicly contest it.
Fernando Haddad
10:06
If this were any country — not a dictatorship —
Fernando Haddad
10:11
About: apply severe penalties to those who conspire against national sovereignty
In a serious democracy, a guy who betrays his country could even be subject to martial law.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence states that betraying the country is serious and should be severely punished.
Fernando Haddad
10:19
It's a very serious matter to betray your country's interests.
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