Desconhecido: To close the topic of public security and move on to other agendas as well, one point that is inevitable.
Desconhecido: we have to say, Bernardo, it's like this: it's not enough just for the police to go in with rifles and carry out operations like the one they did in Rio de Janeiro.
There has to be public policy within those communities.
Desconhecido: When there were the pacifying police units in Rio de Janeiro, during Sérgio Cabral's government, the criminals were expelled from those hills, from those favelas, but there was no public policy for the people.
Desconhecido: After a while, the criminals returned.