Fernando Haddad: Teca.
Fernando Haddad: Teca — Vendramini was one.
I spoke with other people as well whom I thought had the profile to broaden things a bit, precisely to address, as Denise was concerned, those stereotypes that get created.
Fernando Haddad: And then you stall the debate because everything is stereotyped, it's all caricatured.
Fernando Haddad: I think that's bad for democracy.