Fernando Haddad: The struggle against heavy-handedness, the struggle against guns, the struggle against violence, the attempt to seek minimal levels of civility, of respect for dissent.
Fernando Haddad: I don't see that in those governors of the Southeast today.
So, I regretted somewhat, answering your question, that the PSDB didn't even attempt a comeback.
Fernando Haddad: So, it has gone into a collapse.
Fernando Haddad: Dória was no longer very much of a PSDB member, Rodrigo Garcia was opportunistically brought into the PSDB because he never had any relation with the PSDB, Rodrigo's past was completely different, and then came Tarcísio's election.