Desconhecido: An example of what, minister?
Fernando Haddad: These people who are governing Brazil, the states today—take the case of Minas, Rio de Janeiro, take Cláudio Castro, Zema, Tarcísio himself—I don't see in them the same foundational background of the PSDB.
The PSDB was a party with which I disagreed, to some extent, on several important issues—the privatization issue, I disagreed.
Fernando Haddad: But there was a common ground, a shared base, which was the struggle against the military dictatorship, against heavy-handedness, against weapons, against violence, the attempt to seek minimum standards of civility and respect for dissent.
Fernando Haddad: I don't see that in those Southeast governors today.