Fernando Haddad: And I began to say what I was... Because I never spoke before, because I didn't know.
Fernando Haddad: I'll give you another element.
Imagine that the country's finance minister creates a debt renegotiation program that favors the State of São Paulo.
Fernando Haddad: I didn't do it because I'm from São Paulo.
Fernando Haddad: I did it to favor Minas, Rio de Janeiro, Rio Grande do Sul, Goiás.