Kim Kataguiri: Regarding Tarcísio, I think there's exhaustion with the PSDB model, and Tarcísio carried out yet another PSDB-style administration.
Kim Kataguiri: Who runs the government politically is Gilberto Kassab, who is a figure of the centrão, who supports Lula at the federal level and supports Tarcísio at the state level.
This exhaustion, the fact... Tarcísio's administration being more of a PSDB-style administration, in my view opens space for an anti-system candidacy.
Kim Kataguiri: Have you noticed that here it isn't just small speeches, that here it's work?
Kim Kataguiri: It's the largest number of reports, of bills approved and of bad reports and bills blocked.