Kim Kataguiri: Regarding Tarcísio, I think there is exhaustion with the tucano model, and Tarcísio carried out another tucano administration; who runs the government politically is Gilberto Kassab, who is a Centrão figure who supports Lula at the federal level and supports Tarcísio at the state level and who uses... the state government positions to curry favor with mayors.
Kim Kataguiri: and it's no coincidence that PSD today is the party with the most mayors in the State of São Paulo.
I am absolutely against that logic of co-opting party members through the use of state government positions.
Kim Kataguiri: This exhaustion, the fact that the Tarcísio administration is more of a tucano administration, in my assessment, opens space for an anti-system candidacy, opens space for a candidacy that... that allows the replacement of that right-wing pole which I intend to occupy.
Kim Kataguiri: And, in my assessment too, another aspect that we haven't yet talked about, about cutting privileges.