Kim Kataguiri: And look, it's important to emphasize, right?
Kim Kataguiri: The STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) is very macho when it comes to persecuting a lawmaker for a political opinion.
It's very macho when it comes to... steamrolling the National Congress.
Kim Kataguiri: Now, when it comes to imposing its decision on the Judiciary itself, on the lower instances, the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) is getting beaten.
Kim Kataguiri: It is not managing to impose its own decision.