Kim Kataguiri: He can no longer get elected to any executive office in the state.
Kim Kataguiri: PT never won and will never win the state of São Paulo.
Regarding Tarcísio, I think there's exhaustion with the PSDB model, and Tarcísio carried out yet another PSDB-style administration.
Kim Kataguiri: Who runs the government politically is Gilberto Kassab, who is a figure of the centrão, who supports Lula at the federal level and supports Tarcísio at the state level.
Kim Kataguiri: This exhaustion, the fact... Tarcísio's administration being more of a PSDB-style administration, in my view opens space for an anti-system candidacy.