Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: I only ate chicken the next day.
Rogério Vilela: But I was talking about the importance of that ABC strike movement in terms of what changed — how it turned into, how it eventually flowed, after the PT, into the workers' movement.
The ABC strikes, the ABC strikes... they played a major role in the achievement of democracy.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: Because after the ABC strike, other categories began to strike throughout Brazil.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: So the union movement almost rose from the ashes, it became something very strong.