Desconhecido: Just that alone is already a disgrace.
Desconhecido: But... economically.
Economically, that is, you stopped investments, you created the spending ceiling, you kept creating obstacles, because in this country the big problem is that everything is done according to the needs of the market.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: The market starts the year saying, no, there needs to be fiscal adjustment, it's necessary not to spend more, you know?
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: And you need to spend money to improve things.