What Luis Inacio Lula da Silva said about increase investment in infrastructure, skills training, and science and technology

Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: And you won't succeed, and then you'll go broke.

Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: But if you're growing and you measure your size, and every year you say, I'm going to take on a debt like this because I'll grow 2%, 3% more, a debt I can pay, you'll be fine, man.

So, in this country, when you take on debt to build a road, you're not taking on debt for nothing, you're increasing the country's assets.

Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: When you build a port, you're increasing the country's assets.

Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: When you build an airport, you are increasing them.