Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: That's a good debt you should take on.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: That's good debt.
And what you can't do is spend a lot of money on recurrent costs to pay salaries.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: You have to have some control, because otherwise there's no money left for investment.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: Do you know how much investment we made in this term?
