Renan Santos: So, I'll give an example here of a figure who is running a... technical and effective government in his public policies.
Renan Santos: We might not exactly agree with BOC's policies, but he is managing to deliver on the promises he made.
And one thing that makes me different from Zema is: I haven't held elective office, but I've been doing politics effectively for many years.
Renan Santos: For example, Zema today went on a podcast and said, 'ah, I have more experience than Renan.'
Renan Santos: Look, when he ran for governor he had no experience at all and he keeps campaigning saying that he's a businessman and not a politician.