Desconhecido: And then...
Romeu Zema: In '18, zero.
So I was the anti‑machine, anti‑system candidate in Minas Gerais, clearly.
Desconhecido: But Novo's maturity was revealed because with Zema's success, he was the one who started this thing, this myth that existed; he broke the taboo of the myth that Novo doesn't form coalitions.
Desconhecido: That was never in our statute.