Romeu Zema: Ten years ago and today is committing 50% of their salary, because the payment increased much faster than salary adjustments.
Romeu Zema: That's what happened with Minas Gerais' payment burden, until it became unbearable.
Now, with Propag, we'll have relief.
Romeu Zema: Now we have a problem, because in 2015-16... refreshing our memory here, Brazil entered a recession and Minas Gerais had a drop in revenue.
Romeu Zema: So tomorrow it may be that the debt continues to rise at inflation plus 1% while revenues fall.