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282 classified statements · 1 politicians · February 20, 2026 · 27 min
Statements by Romeu Zema. 282 excerpts classified by topic and stance. Topics: Electoral Strategy, State policy, Public Budget, Monetary Policy.
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Romeu Zema
0:00
Good morning, Guilherme.
Romeu Zema
0:01
Good morning, Paulo.
Romeu Zema
0:02
Good morning, Laura.
Romeu Zema
0:03
It's a great pleasure to be here once again, and good morning to everyone watching us.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
0:07
About: run for the presidency
Governor, you are already in the final stretch of your second term and are also preparing to leave the government for your presidential pre-campaign.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Reports preparations for a pre-campaign without expressing support or opposition.
Desconhecido
0:17
I wanted to start... I'm looking back at what you've done since you took office in Minas in 2019.
Desconhecido
0:25
Are you leaving with the mission accomplished—50% of it, 80% of it?
- Neutral
Desconhecido
0:30
About: ensure continuity of state government projects
What still remains to be done and what will be left for Vice-Governor Matheus Simões at the end of the year?
Why it was classified this way · 60% confidence Asks what will remain for the vice president and about continuity of actions.
Romeu Zema
0:36
About: implement changes in the management of the State of São Paulo
Well, Guilherme... I am handing over to Vice-Governor Matheus Simões, within 40 days, a State much better than the one I received from Pimentel PT (Workers' Party) seven years and two months ago.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Claims to have delivered a better State than they received (track record).
Romeu Zema
0:51
About: ensure timely payroll payments and transfers to municipalities
I should recall that the accounts were completely overdue, public employees didn't know when or if they would receive their 13th salary.
Why it was classified this way · 65% confidence Describes a past situation of late salaries and bills, without proposing action.
Romeu Zema
1:02
About: ensure timely payroll payments and transfers to municipalities
Mayors weren't receiving transfers for ICMS or IPVA, nor for Education or Health; there was a huge graveyard of abandoned, vandalized public works, and that's in the past now.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence Claims to have regularized transfers as a government action (claim).
Romeu Zema
1:17
We have made progress.
Romeu Zema
1:19
I'm not saying the State is perfect, no.
Romeu Zema
1:23
About: create formal jobs
But major advances were made: one million formal jobs created.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Claims the creation of one million formal jobs as a government accomplishment.
Romeu Zema
1:29
About: attract investors and stimulate an investment climate
More than 100 billion dollars in private investment, 530 billion reais.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence Presents figures of private investments attracted as a government achievement.
Romeu Zema
1:37
About: adhere to Propag to restructure the state debt
And today Minas Gerais, in addition to having the accounts up to date, has already joined Propag, which means that the next governors will not govern with a noose around their necks, as I had to.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence Says they joined Propag and explains its debt-relief effect.
Romeu Zema
1:51
My administration was a very difficult one.
Romeu Zema
1:53
About: improve state public finances
A government that paid debts, put the house in order — so it wasn't an easy government.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence Claims to have paid debts and put the house in order.
Romeu Zema
2:00
About: speed up execution of public works and infrastructure projects
And they're going to hand him a large construction site already underway.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence Says he will leave a large construction site for his successor.
Romeu Zema
2:05
About: expand the metro network
Look at the metro expansion after 23 years.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence Declares the metro expansion and station delivery as facts.
Romeu Zema
2:08
And I never promised a metro, no.
Romeu Zema
2:11
About: expand the metro network
And there it is: we've already delivered one station and there are six more stations ahead.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Says he delivered one station and there are more stations scheduled.
Romeu Zema
2:16
About: speed up execution of public works and infrastructure projects
And in the past you know there were people who promised and never delivered.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence Criticizes unfulfilled promises and contrasts his delivery-oriented stance.
Romeu Zema
2:21
About: speed up execution of public works and infrastructure projects
I did the opposite: I didn't promise and I'm delivering.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence Says he acted differently from those who promised and did not deliver.
Romeu Zema
2:24
About: increase investment in public infrastructure
And with detail — with funds reserved for completion.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence Says there are funds reserved to complete the mentioned works.
Romeu Zema
2:29
About: build and fund a ring road to relieve urban traffic
Rodoanel Metropolitano, there it is.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence States the concession and existence of the Rodoanel project.
Romeu Zema
2:31
About: build and fund a ring road to relieve urban traffic
Already granted, just waiting for the environmental license; 5 billion deposited in an account for the work, regardless of the election, the State's financial condition, or the political scenario — it will come off the drawing board.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Reports a deposit of R$5bi and that the work will move off the paper.
Romeu Zema
2:49
About: duplicate and revitalize state highways
The duplication for Belo Horizonte, Ouro Preto and Mariana, the same thing granted; there is 1.5 billion deposited for the execution of that work as well.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Says there are funds deposited for executing the duplication.
Romeu Zema
3:00
About: pave state roads and build bridges
Duplication for Brumadinho and many others, two bridges over the São Francisco River that are under construction.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence Mentions road duplications and bridges under construction as progress.
Romeu Zema
3:07
About: speed up execution of public works and infrastructure projects
That in the past was promised and never done.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence Criticizes past unfulfilled promises, advocating execution.
Romeu Zema
3:10
About: speed up execution of public works and infrastructure projects
And I, who never promised, am delivering.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Reaffirms that, without promising, he is effectively delivering projects.
Romeu Zema
3:13
So that's a very big difference.
Romeu Zema
3:15
About: continue executing long-term structural projects
I'm very happy to see Minas' progress, but we still have a lot to do ahead.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Says the State will keep improving with project execution.
Romeu Zema
3:21
Matheus Simões has great challenges.
Romeu Zema
3:25
But he's got the train on the tracks and is already prospering.
Romeu Zema
3:30
And I picked up the train from the bottom of the ocean and had to take it out and fix it.
Romeu Zema
3:36
So, Minas has improved and will continue to do so.
Romeu Zema
3:39
All those projects I mentioned, Guilherme, are long-term, structural projects.
Romeu Zema
3:45
So, as these are implemented and delivered, the State will keep improving.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
3:51
About: reduce public debt
Governor, despite this scenario of execution, of transformation of what you received — because you are delivering — Minas still has a quite complicated situation regarding its debt and its management.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Points out that Minas still has a complicated situation of debt and management.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
4:03
About: reduce public debt
It is inherited and transformed, but it's a rather complicated situation.
Why it was classified this way · 60% confidence Reiterates that the debt problem is inherited and complex.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
4:07
About: start an electoral campaign
Governor Matheus Simões has a big challenge, which is preparing to be elected.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Says that Matheus will need to prepare to be elected.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
4:14
About: ensure fiscal responsibility during government transitions
To have a healthy government so that he can, from a financial point of view, govern, or else hand over the State in conditions that the next governor can receive it and also have governability.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Suggests a financially healthy government for governability or delivery.
Desconhecido
4:25
What does Minas still lack?
Desconhecido
4:26
To have complete financial balance?
Romeu Zema
4:30
About: reduce public debt
Paulo, Minas' big problem is the debt.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Says that Minas' big problem is the debt.
Romeu Zema
4:34
A monstrous debt.
Romeu Zema
4:36
About: reduce public debt
We're talking about 180 billion reais.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence States the amount of the debt without proposing direct action.
Romeu Zema
4:41
It's as if each person from Minas... owed approximately R$ 9,000.
Romeu Zema
4:47
It's telling each person from Minas, you have a debt of R$ 9,000.
Romeu Zema
4:51
It would mess up a lot of people's lives.
Desconhecido
4:53
I don't.
- Against
Desconhecido
4:53
About: assume the state public debt
No, I'm not going to take on that debt.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Explicitly declares 'não vou assumir essa dívida'.
Romeu Zema
4:55
I'm just giving the breakdown there; I know you're a very controlled guy indeed.
Romeu Zema
4:59
On the contrary, you have money invested.
Romeu Zema
5:01
About: maintain monetary policy with high interest rates
You must be enjoying those high interest rates under Lula, huh?
Why it was classified this way · 60% confidence Criticizes high interest rates as favorable to savers and harmful to debtors.
Romeu Zema
5:05
Which is a torment for those with debt and a boon for those with money invested, like you.
Romeu Zema
5:13
So you're on the other side of the scale from the majority of the people.
Romeu Zema
5:17
Everyone's envying you, you know, Paulo?
Romeu Zema
5:19
About: reduce public debt
But Minas' debt really is a big problem, and the high interest rates in Brazil make that debt even worse.
Why it was classified this way · 65% confidence Links high interest rates to the worsening of the state's debt.
Romeu Zema
5:31
Having a big debt... It's bad to have a debt with high adjustment rates, as happened for most of the time, turning it into an almost unpayable snowball.
Romeu Zema
5:44
About: adhere to Propag to restructure the state debt
But with adherence to Propag, Paulo, I'm not going to say we'll have paradise, no, but we'll be in a much better position, because Propag foresees an adjustment of the debt practically by inflation plus 1% per year.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Defends Propag as a means to correct the debt (inflation +1%).
Romeu Zema
6:03
In the past, when I took office, the adjustment was inflation plus 4%.
Romeu Zema
6:08
The Brazilian economy and Minas' state revenue don't grow 4% per year.
Romeu Zema
6:16
So what happened in the past was... a debt that the more time passed, the more burdensome and heavy it became.
Romeu Zema
6:27
I always cite as a comparison someone who starts paying a home loan committing 15% of their salary.
Romeu Zema
6:37
Ten years ago and today is committing 50% of their salary, because the payment increased much faster than salary adjustments.
Romeu Zema
6:48
That's what happened with Minas Gerais' payment burden, until it became unbearable.
Romeu Zema
6:53
About: adhere to Propag to restructure the state debt
Now, with Propag, we'll have relief.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence Reiterates that Propag will bring relief to the state's debt.
Romeu Zema
6:57
Now we have a problem, because in 2015-16... refreshing our memory here, Brazil entered a recession and Minas Gerais had a drop in revenue.
Romeu Zema
7:11
So tomorrow it may be that the debt continues to rise at inflation plus 1% while revenues fall.
Romeu Zema
7:19
About: link collection of state debt to a percentage of revenue
Ideally the federal government would charge Minas a percentage of our revenue and not some other unlinked value, because tomorrow there could be a mismatch again.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence Proposes the federal government cover percentages of revenue, not unlinked amounts.
Romeu Zema
7:31
And let's hope it doesn't.
Romeu Zema
7:33
About: support and give political backing to Vice-Governor Matheus Simões
Matheus is an excellent manager, he has my full support, he's my right-hand man and I'm sure he'll do everything necessary to make it viable.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Explicitly declares support for and confidence in the successor.
Romeu Zema
7:43
About: implement changes in the management of the State of São Paulo
The situation has already improved in these seven years and two months of our administration.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence States that the situation improved during their administration.
Romeu Zema
7:49
About: improve state public finances
Today the State's ability to pay, Paulo, is much better than it was seven years and two months ago.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Reports that the State's payment capacity is better today.
Romeu Zema
7:56
The opposition says the debt rose.
Romeu Zema
8:00
But many people with a home loan pay every month and the debt increases.
Romeu Zema
8:06
Because they paid one thousand reais and the debt was adjusted to 1,200.
Romeu Zema
8:10
That's the most normal thing, pure mathematics.
Romeu Zema
8:13
But the State's capacity has improved.
Romeu Zema
8:16
We owed 190% of our revenue and we've already reduced it to something like 170%.
Romeu Zema
8:24
So the State's ability to... pay off the debt today is better than it was.
Desconhecido
8:29
I just want to make it clear: if someone comes to offer me products or services, my situation is not as comfortable as the governor said, no.
Desconhecido
8:37
Because otherwise I'll be in trouble going forward.
Romeu Zema
8:39
Oh Paulo, you're exaggerating.
Romeu Zema
8:42
I come from retail and it's one of the sectors that has suffered the most.
Romeu Zema
8:49
In fact, the company I managed and of which I'm still a partner is still one of the few survivors in Minas Gerais.
Romeu Zema
8:55
In the real estate and home appliances sector.
Romeu Zema
8:57
Most of the companies we had here in that area disappeared because it's really a very difficult market, but we're there doing the work.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
9:06
About: increase public servants' salaries when necessary
Governor, since you mentioned Propag, at times you linked adherence to Propag to being able to consider pay raises and salary recomposition for public servants here in Minas.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Questions the relationship between Propag and the salary restoration of public servants.
Desconhecido
9:21
By the end of 2026, will this debate come up again?
Desconhecido
9:24
Is it your goal to close this matter still during the Zema Simões administration?
Romeu Zema
9:30
About: open discussion on salary adjustments for state civil servants
It will come up for discussion now, Laura.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence Says the topic will be put on the agenda (supports the discussion).
Romeu Zema
9:35
About: increase public servants' salaries when necessary
We gave raises over these years where it was possible.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence Claims to have granted adjustments when possible (track record).
Romeu Zema
9:40
In fact, I remember well, in the year of my re-election, 2022, we started a year with a lot of turmoil.
Romeu Zema
9:49
Four years ago, a lot of demonstrations, strikes, movements, etc.
Romeu Zema
9:56
And I was very clear on that occasion.
Romeu Zema
9:59
About: increase public servants' salaries when necessary
I said, what we can give as a raise is what was given on that occasion: 10%.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Cites granting a 10% adjustment as an action taken.
Romeu Zema
10:07
And everyone wanting 20, 30.
Romeu Zema
10:09
About: prioritize fiscal responsibility over reelection
I said, I'd rather hand over an organized State to my successor, not being re-elected.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Says they would rather not be re-elected than ruin the State's finances.
Romeu Zema
10:17
Than to be re-elected and be left with a ruined State to administer.
Romeu Zema
10:22
I have that view.
Romeu Zema
10:24
For me, winning the election is a consequence.
Romeu Zema
10:27
It's not my main objective.
Romeu Zema
10:30
If to win the election I have to ruin the State, I'd rather not win.
Romeu Zema
10:34
And this, unfortunately, is what mostly prevails in politics.
Romeu Zema
10:39
About: pursue a policy of fiscal austerity
But I, as I said, am very confident that Matheus... will continue with this austerity work, will give a raise this year — we've already discussed it, we'll have a raise there; maybe it won't be every public employee's dream, but we'll do what is within our reach.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Advocates continuing austerity and the support of the successor.
Romeu Zema
11:03
About: comply with the Fiscal Responsibility Law in state public management
And also remembering, Laura, a very important matter: there is the fiscal responsibility law, which was not complied with in the past, but I... am a law-abiding person.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence Declares to comply with the LRF and to act in accordance with the law.
Romeu Zema
11:15
About: keep personnel spending within the 49% limit set by the LRF
So today the State is at the limit with personnel expenditure which is 49%.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Reports that the State is at the legal limit for personnel spending.
Romeu Zema
11:21
Do you understand?
Romeu Zema
11:22
The law says it cannot exceed 49%.
Romeu Zema
11:25
About: increase public servants' salaries when necessary
And we are at the limit.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence Conditions any adjustment on growth in revenue.
Romeu Zema
11:28
So, as revenue grows, that's when we'll be able to give some kind of raise.
Desconhecido
11:35
Governor, you... have spoken a lot about the State's recovery over your term, over your two terms, from the point of view of attracting investment.
Desconhecido
11:43
And the government achieved fairly impressive numbers in the signing of memoranda of intent and attracting important players.
Desconhecido
11:49
I can easily mention here the Heineken factory and others that have come to the State.
Desconhecido
11:53
But there is also a problem of the accounts being drained.
Desconhecido
11:56
From what is there, from the civil servants, from the volume of expenditure that is specifically for the pension system.
Desconhecido
12:01
Back in 2020, you managed to get approval for a pension reform for state civil servants here.
Desconhecido
12:07
It's been almost six years since then.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
12:10
About: implement pension reform
Do you see the need for a new pension reform for state civil servants here?
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Asks whether there is a need for a new state pension reform.
Desconhecido
12:15
And I'm going to mention one category in particular.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
12:17
About: reduce military pension expenses
Specifically in the case of the military, because they represent a very significant outflow of resources from the State's coffers.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Points to the significant impact of military expenditures on the state coffers.
Romeu Zema
12:26
About: implement pension reform
Guilherme, it's not Minas that will need a new pension reform, no.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence Says Minas will not need a new reform (opposed to a new reform).
Romeu Zema
12:31
It's Brazil.
Romeu Zema
12:33
And I always like to say the following: we should be grateful.
Romeu Zema
12:39
Our great-grandparents, who lived to 60, used to retire at, I don't know, 45 or 50.
Romeu Zema
12:48
About: raise the minimum retirement age to 60-65 years
In my opinion, it's much better to live to 80 or 85, as is happening, and have to work until you're 60 or 65, or something like that.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence Argues for working until ages 60–65 due to increased life expectancy.
Romeu Zema
13:01
Living longer is a gift from God and means you have to support yourself for longer.
Romeu Zema
13:09
It's very logical.
Romeu Zema
13:12
Now, it seems to me that the vast majority—or some people—want to live longer and not have to support themselves for longer, passing the bill to others.
Romeu Zema
13:23
So it's a logical and mathematical thing.
Romeu Zema
13:25
About: increase pension contributions according to life expectancy
We are living longer, we will have to contribute more.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence States that living longer means contributing for a longer time.
Romeu Zema
13:30
About: include an automatic trigger in national pension legislation according to life expectancy
In fact, when the pension reform happened back in 2019–20, I proposed... that there be, to make it automated, a trigger.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence Demands an automatic trigger that adjusts contributions according to IBGE.
Romeu Zema
13:41
If life expectancy increased, and IBGE has that data, that the contribution in a given year would rise by one month, by two months.
Romeu Zema
13:50
If in the next year it didn't increase, it stays stable.
Romeu Zema
13:52
If in the following year it increased, it would go up another month.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
13:54
About: apply an automatic trigger in the state pension system
Can this be applied at the state level, governor?
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Asks whether the proposed trigger could be applied in the State.
Romeu Zema
13:56
About: include an automatic trigger in national pension legislation according to life expectancy
No, that's a national rule.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Affirms the change must occur in Brasília (supports a national change).
Romeu Zema
13:59
It needs to be changed in Brasília.
Romeu Zema
14:01
About: allow states to adopt an automatic pension trigger
Then the states that want to can join.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence Says that if the national rule changes, states will be able to opt in.
Romeu Zema
14:04
Because that way you solve this problem forever, right?
Romeu Zema
14:09
There are many things today that we deal with that already have triggers.
Romeu Zema
14:15
If you pay rent, you've already established with the landlord that each year you will use a certain index.
Romeu Zema
14:22
And why not use life expectancy as the index for contribution time?
Desconhecido
14:29
You speak of changing rules that are national rules.
Desconhecido
14:34
You are a candidate, a pre-candidate for the Presidency of the Republic.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
14:39
About: reform the federal pact to reduce penalties on states and municipalities
Brazil has a flimsy, poorly resolved federative pact.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence States the federal pact is poorly resolved and penalizes subnational entities.
Desconhecido
14:43
Never discussed, states and municipalities are penalized, municipalities even more so, and they are penalized because of this bad federative pact.
Desconhecido
14:52
What proposal is viable for a federative pact, given your experience as a state governor?
Romeu Zema
14:58
About: keep more resources in the states and municipalities where they are generated
Paulo, I'm always in favor of the revenue staying where it is generated.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence Expresses support for revenue to remain where it is generated (decentralization).
Romeu Zema
15:05
As much of it as possible staying where it's generated is ideal.
Romeu Zema
15:13
Everything goes to Brasília, a much larger share than it should, and then you have a very large concentration of power, and when there's concentration of power you get what we're seeing now, these great abuses.
Romeu Zema
15:30
And the mayors end up going to the state capital or to Brasília with their hands out, asking for funds, dependent on deputies.
Romeu Zema
15:42
Who often use that in not very republican ways.
Romeu Zema
15:46
About: combat corruption and the buying of parliamentary support
I'll send you funds, but you will have to hire services from I don't know whom.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence criticizes deputies who condition transfers on political quid pro quos.
Romeu Zema
15:52
And the mayor becomes a hostage.
Romeu Zema
15:54
And governors get stuck in the middle.
Romeu Zema
15:57
And everything concentrated there on the Ilha da Fantasilha.
Romeu Zema
16:01
The fantasy that is Brasília.
Romeu Zema
16:03
So it's necessary that more resources remain in the municipalities and also in the states.
Romeu Zema
16:10
About: decentralize local resources and centralize only national infrastructure resources
That only those resources for national infrastructure go to Brasília, the federal highways that connect one region or state to another, and not resources that are meant to be applied locally.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence proposes that only resources for BRs remain federal, while other funds stay local.
Romeu Zema
16:25
And then the mayor ends up being almost blackmailed.
Romeu Zema
16:31
By some parliamentarians: if you don't support me, if you don't do this, I won't send you funds to finish paving that avenue.
Romeu Zema
16:40
Why didn't that money remain there for him to pave the avenue?
Romeu Zema
16:43
He would gain time.
Romeu Zema
16:45
And we would have a much more functional system.
Romeu Zema
16:48
Brazil is dysfunctional.
Romeu Zema
16:50
And one of the reasons is that.
Romeu Zema
16:52
This concentration of resources in the federal government.
Desconhecido
16:55
With that reading you make, governor, I want to ask you about an effect created by the so-called turbocharged amendments.
Desconhecido
17:03
It was the secret budget, but now it has consolidated in the National Congress.
Desconhecido
17:06
Do you see that it was harmful precisely because of that relationship you mentioned?
Romeu Zema
17:10
Very harmful, Guilherme.
Romeu Zema
17:12
About: ensure transparency and oversee the use of amendments and the secret budget
First of all... It seems there are these PICS amendments that nobody knows what they will turn into.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence expresses support for amendments of smaller size and full transparency.
Romeu Zema
17:21
About: ensure transparency and oversee the use of amendments and the secret budget
I am in favor of having amendments, yes, but in a much smaller volume than the current one and with total transparency.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence explicitly declares 'sou favorável' to transparent and smaller amendments.
Romeu Zema
17:30
About: ensure transparency and oversee the use of amendments and the secret budget
The parliamentarian should be obliged to account for the application of that resource in the smallest detail.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence demands mandatory reporting on the application of amendments.
Romeu Zema
17:38
And for certain areas and certain matters.
Romeu Zema
17:42
Like, I sent an amendment to buy a CT scanner for such-and-such hospital.
Romeu Zema
17:48
And not 'I sent an amendment to hire such-and-such work,' which nobody really knows what it is — and that's what most amendments do today.
Romeu Zema
17:57
Do you understand?
Romeu Zema
17:58
About: combat corruption in parliamentary amendments and public contracts
So it's not transparent; there's a lot of wrongdoing, serious wrongdoing, where that hiring already involves someone who is pre-designated, someone who was hired and will send money to I don't know where.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence describes schemes and calls to combat irregularities in procurements and amendments.
Romeu Zema
18:12
Let's say, almost hidden 'rachadinhas'.
Romeu Zema
18:16
Do you understand?
Romeu Zema
18:16
And who's paying the bill is you, me, and those who are listening to us.
Romeu Zema
18:20
About: ensure transparency and oversee the use of amendments and the secret budget
And I don't want to keep sending money to be used in that way.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence refuses to send money that will be used opaquely.
Desconhecido
18:25
Shall we talk about the election campaign?
Desconhecido
18:27
Let's.
Desconhecido
18:28
Governor, I also wanted to bring up a question, referring to the recent conversation we had here on 98 News, on 98 Talks, with state deputy Bruno Engler, who mentioned an issue to be resolved regarding the election campaign.
Desconhecido
18:42
We don't have a problem here in the Bolsonaro family with having a platform with Vice-Governor Matheus Simões that serves as a platform for presidential candidate Flávio Bolsonaro.
Desconhecido
18:52
But at the same time we need to resolve it because the governor of Minas is also a pre-candidate for the Presidency of the Republic.
Desconhecido
18:58
How will you balance that?
Desconhecido
18:59
What will Vice-Governor Matheus Simões have to do?
Desconhecido
19:02
A double platform?
Desconhecido
19:03
Zema one day, Flávio Bolsonaro the next?
Romeu Zema
19:05
About: strengthen the right-wing coalition with strong candidates
Well, Guilherme, first I'm very pleased that the right has good names.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence celebrates good names of the right and interprets this as a sign of strengthening.
Romeu Zema
19:11
Flávio Bolsonaro, several governors, including myself, well-rated governors, it must be said, and that means a stronger right.
Romeu Zema
19:24
Good governors will, without doubt, be the most voted for in their respective states.
Romeu Zema
19:32
And that will happen here in Minas.
Romeu Zema
19:36
About: support an alternative right-wing candidacy to prevent the PT's advance
And we will be together, yes, in the second round.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence assures they will be together in the second round (political alliance).
Romeu Zema
19:40
This issue, to tell the truth, doesn't bother me much.
Romeu Zema
19:45
About: increase awareness and support for Renan Santos in the State
The new PSD agreement itself, Matheus Simões, already foresees that Ratinho, if he is the PSD candidate, may come to Minas Gerais, but I will be there together with Matheus.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence cites an agreement by PSD and a commitment to support the local Matheus.
Romeu Zema
20:02
So, in politics, this kind of thing is common.
Romeu Zema
20:05
From what I see, some parties in some states will support one presidential candidate and in other states other candidates.
Romeu Zema
20:15
So this is nothing unusual in politics.
Romeu Zema
20:20
But what I want to make clear is the following: I get along very well with Flávio and with the other pre-candidates.
Romeu Zema
20:28
About: maintain pre-candidacy until final decision
I will take my pre-campaign and campaign to the end because I have proposals that no one else has.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence declares explicit intent to continue pre-campaign and campaign.
Romeu Zema
20:34
Because I'm an entrepreneur, because I don't come from politics, there are many things I dream for Brazil that the vast majority of politicians, especially career politicians, do not want.
Romeu Zema
20:46
About: end black boxes and increase transparency in public administration
And we know we need to end every kind of black box.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence states the need to end 'caixas pretas' in public administration.
Romeu Zema
20:50
About: increase transparency of public administration
The black box of parliamentary amendments, the black box of flights, of expenses, of the ministries and of the president as well.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence criticizes 'caixa preta' and demands disclosure of public expenses.
Romeu Zema
21:00
About: disclose government expenses and acts publicly and transparently
Here in Minas everything I do the following month.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence says that in the State everything it does is made available (claims transparency).
Romeu Zema
21:02
About: disclose government expenses and acts publicly and transparently
The information is available.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence states that the information is available — defends a practice of transparency.
Romeu Zema
21:03
About: disclose government expenses and acts publicly and transparently
Why can't it be this way in Brasília?
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence questions why information in Brasília is not public (calls for transparency).
Romeu Zema
21:05
About: disclose government expenses and acts publicly and transparently
A hundred years from now?
Why it was classified this way · 60% confidence rhetoric about delays in publishing information, indicates support for disclosure.
Romeu Zema
21:06
About: disclose government expenses and acts publicly and transparently
Only then will someone know what Lula spent money on, who flew on the FAB plane.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence criticizes that they will only learn what the other spent and suggests accountability.
Romeu Zema
21:12
About: disclose government expenses and acts publicly and transparently
They are using public resources.
Why it was classified this way · 72% confidence says public funds are being used but, in this remark, does not propose a concrete measure.
Romeu Zema
21:14
About: disclose government expenses and acts publicly and transparently
must be held accountable.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence explicitly says 'tem de prestar contas' (pro-transparency stance).
Romeu Zema
21:16
About: present proposals to improve the presidential campaign debate
So I have proposals that will greatly improve this presidential campaign debate.
Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence states he has proposals that will greatly improve the presidential campaign debate.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
21:22
About: determine the composition of the state and presidential tickets
And as for the ticket composition, governor, the vice-governor himself had mentioned that the decision about his vice would be in his hands.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence asks about the ticket composition and the vice decision — without taking a personal stance.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
21:30
About: determine the composition of the state and presidential tickets
How is that negotiation going?
Why it was classified this way · 65% confidence asks 'Como está essa negociação?' — a question without advocating action.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
21:31
About: bring a center-right name to join the presidential ticket
Do you consider the possibility of bringing a center-right name to join your presidential ticket as well?
Why it was classified this way · 72% confidence asks whether he is considering bringing in a center-right name — interrogative stance.
Romeu Zema
21:38
About: choose a woman as running mate
Once again, that's a good problem, because we have good names.
Why it was classified this way · 60% confidence says he has good names and treats it as a 'problema bom' — supports considering alternatives.
Romeu Zema
21:42
About: choose a woman as running mate
I can mention here Tiago Mitrô, who was already a federal deputy, a brilliant person.
Why it was classified this way · 72% confidence cites Tiago Mitrô as an example of a name — description of possible candidates.
Romeu Zema
21:47
About: choose a woman as running mate
Fernanda Altoé, councilwoman for Belo Horizonte.
Why it was classified this way · 72% confidence mentions Fernanda Altoé as a potential name — informational listing.
Romeu Zema
21:52
About: choose a woman as running mate
Even the mayor of Divinópolis, Gleidson as well, a very well-evaluated mayor.
Why it was classified this way · 72% confidence mentions the mayor of Divinópolis as a possible name — list of options.
Romeu Zema
21:58
About: field party-affiliated cadres as candidates
All from Partido Novo.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence states that all the names mentioned are from Partido Novo — party description.
Romeu Zema
22:00
About: choose a woman as running mate
And it may be that we come to consider another name yet.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence explicitly says he may consider another name — supports opening up options.
Romeu Zema
22:05
About: promote political renewal and alternation of leadership
But I'm naming these three, which shows that we, unlike the left, which seems to have had the same name for 40 years, have created a new batch here of good talents in Minas Gerais.
Why it was classified this way · 82% confidence contrasts with the 'esquerda' and defends a new batch of talents.
Romeu Zema
22:22
About: recognize national right-wing leaders
Although he is not from our party, Nicolas, who is a national star today, known all over Brazil, on the right.
Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence praises Nicolas even though he is outside the party, without proposing concrete action.
Romeu Zema
22:31
About: promote political renewal and alternation of leadership
So I am very happy to see this new crop that will advance in the coming years.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence says he is happy with the 'safra nova' that is advancing, favoring renewal.
Romeu Zema
22:38
I have always worked with a long-term perspective all my life.
Romeu Zema
22:44
And there are people who only work looking at the next election.
Romeu Zema
22:47
I'm looking at the next... ten elections ahead; I think by then we probably won't even be here anymore, right Paulo?
Romeu Zema
22:55
Because of our age already.
Desconhecido
22:57
I'm not that far off, you know, governor?
Romeu Zema
22:59
To be perfectly honest.
Romeu Zema
23:02
But we have to look ahead.
Romeu Zema
23:04
I say that I created the company, made the company grow for others.
Romeu Zema
23:08
So much so that at 52 I left the company.
Romeu Zema
23:11
It's there operating with 5,000 employees, going through a difficult moment, as retail has been going through.
Romeu Zema
23:18
About: investigate and punish corruption in public administration
You do things to keep them running and not, as is happening there in Brasília, put everything in your pocket and think it's all yours.
Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence criticizes those who 'coloca tudo no bolso' in Brasília and calls for accountability.
Romeu Zema
23:27
That's how I see it.
Romeu Zema
23:30
It's always about leaving a legacy, always leaving things better than they were when you arrived.
Desconhecido
23:36
One more minute, governor, we have time here.
Desconhecido
23:38
I wanted to add a little spice to this political vatapá yet.
Desconhecido
23:42
You talk about a ticket composition that, so far, with the chosen names... all of them a 'pure-blood' ticket, with Novo being the head and the trunk and the limbs.
Desconhecido
23:56
Isn't it hard to compete in an election in that sense, with a 'pure-blood' ticket?
Desconhecido
24:00
And the second question: if during this composition one perceives, for example, that Flávio Bolsonaro, who is a name that has been running and has been doing very well in the polls, needs a running mate like Romeu Zema, would Romeu Zema accept joining a ticket with Flávio Bolsonaro?
Romeu Zema
24:20
First, Paulo, when I mentioned those three names, Tiago, Mitrô, Fernando Altué and Gleitson, I was referring to Mateus's running mate.
Desconhecido
24:30
Ah, for the state government.
Romeu Zema
24:31
For the state government.
Romeu Zema
24:34
Now, this question of vice for a candidate, a pre-candidate for president, is something that will still be defined.
Romeu Zema
24:41
That one is still much, let's say, green.
Desconhecido
24:45
But there isn't any name.
Desconhecido
24:46
You're just flirting, huh?
Romeu Zema
24:48
No, it will depend a lot on the behavior of the polls from now on.
Romeu Zema
24:53
I am very honored to have my name considered, remembered, as you... you said it has already been reported; being vice-president is not that different from being president.
Romeu Zema
25:07
So that makes me extremely honored.
Romeu Zema
25:10
But I will be carrying, Paulo, as I said, my pre-candidacy and candidacy through to the end, also for that reason.
Romeu Zema
25:17
About: promote political renewal and alternation of leadership
I want, to some extent, to cause a bit of discomfort to this political establishment that is there in Brazil, which we know needs a shake-up.
Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence says he wants to unsettle the establishment and promote a shake-up.
Romeu Zema
25:27
About: elect outsider managers to reform public administration
In the private sector, I don't like the English term, but it's common when a company is in trouble to bring in an outsider, someone from the outside.
Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence advocates the idea of an 'outsider' to solve Brazil's problems.
Romeu Zema
25:39
And Brazil has been experiencing difficulties for a long time.
Romeu Zema
25:43
Personally, I think someone from the political establishment, from within politics, will have difficulties, because a person who has always lived there has incorporated that culture, that practice.
Romeu Zema
25:55
I'm an outsider and I see things differently from someone who's been there 10, 20, 30 years.
Romeu Zema
26:01
I've been governor of the state for 7 years and 2 months, but I haven't let myself be contaminated.
Romeu Zema
26:08
As many people sometimes do in a short time.
Romeu Zema
26:12
About: promote political renewal and alternation of leadership
And Brazil needs a good shake-up.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence says Brazil needs 'uma boa chacoalhada', calling for change.
Romeu Zema
26:15
What we are seeing every day in the news is enough to cause the greatest possible indignation.
Romeu Zema
26:21
You are following it, I think even better than I am, you know very well.
Desconhecido
26:25
Governor, I want to thank you here on behalf of 98 News, and of course also Grupo Biel, for your participation and always the promptness you have had to be with us to discuss the important issues of Minas politics and national politics.
Desconhecido
26:37
especially in bringing light to what is most important for us.
Desconhecido
26:39
Putting Minas Gerais first and the main issues that our state has and deserves.
Desconhecido
26:44
Thank you.
Romeu Zema
26:45
I thank you, Guilherme.
Romeu Zema
26:46
Minas is prospering.
Romeu Zema
26:49
About: execute transport infrastructure projects in Minas Gerais
And as I said, in the next 5, 10 years, the people of Minas will see many good things that are being born now.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence foresees deliveries in the coming years and defends executing the projects.
Romeu Zema
26:57
About: execute transport infrastructure projects in Minas Gerais
The expansion of the metro, for which we have already delivered one station, the metropolitan ring road, the duplication of the Belo Horizonte–Ouro Preto–Mariana [route], also to Brumadinho, all of this with money reserved.
Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence lists the subway, ring road and road widening projects as works with funds reserved.
Romeu Zema
27:12
About: execute transport infrastructure projects in Minas Gerais
Ready to begin execution and soon after delivery.
Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence says the works are ready for execution and delivery — calls for government action.
Romeu Zema
27:15
About: execute transport infrastructure projects in Minas Gerais
So we planted well and the people of Minas will reap good fruits.
Why it was classified this way · 72% confidence uses a planting-and-harvest metaphor to defend the results of public works.
Romeu Zema
27:20
And I am very happy to have participated in this process.
Romeu Zema
27:23
Thank you very much, good morning.
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