Romeu Zema: by Red Hunter, went through that whole process, and one of the things I demanded of him was a map of Minas online, which is still there to this day, anyone can consult it, showing where it's possible to get a connection.
Romeu Zema: And then there was this investment boom.
So you can see how a company... can stall the development of a State and of a country.
Romeu Zema: That's why a state-owned company is not a good business.
Romeu Zema: You mentioned the Correios there and that's a current example.