Romeu Zema: a project of national interest.
Romeu Zema: And if it is considered as such, it won't be stopped because of the little oddball who lives there, it won't be stopped because of the so-called traditional community five kilometers away that says it is affected and won't be affected; the work will not remain unexecuted. Other countries, notably China and other Asian countries, have advanced. And here in Brazil, when you secure the funding, which is rare to do something, someone comes and stops it.
That's why our mobility is such a terror in Brazil. We can't carry forward major infrastructure projects.
Romeu Zema: We need to advance a lot in this area and make execution easier. The other day I heard a joke that said the following: when you go to do a project in Brazil, you need 5 engineers and 50 lawyers. Then things really don't move.
Rogério Vilela: And about the...