Desconhecido: I have a very big reservation about someone who has already participated in a left‑wing government. I say one of the things I'm proud of is never having voted for the PT in my life. Never voted? I never voted.
Desconhecido: When the PT was running a government that was well regarded, I used to think to myself, you have to keep quiet, because it seems like they're doing the right thing. And then came Petrolão, Mensalão, Lava Jato, everything fell apart, I wasn't wrong.
And Aldo, I think, has that stain on his résumé.
Romeu Zema: But has he changed? Does he think, is he still leftist? No, I think he may even have somewhat reformed, you know? Yes, but you always remain with a foot back in case that virus isn't there and could be incubated and manifest itself.
Romeu Zema: I'll bring him here, let's see if he's an incubated leftist or if he's already center or right‑wing.