Romeu Zema: So, I didn't put anything in my pocket.
Romeu Zema: Thank God, my life is taken care of.
Second, back then, around 2005, we had huge populism in Minas Gerais when the governor at the time cut his salary and all the secretaries' salaries in half.
Romeu Zema: But it was just for show — everyone received jetons, both in the PSDB government and later in PT governor Pimentel's government.
Romeu Zema: I like to show what is happening rather than creating mechanisms that people have difficulty seeing.