Romeu Zema: This is the big problem of the public sector.
Romeu Zema: They put there people who are more campaign operatives than people who understand health, security, education, public security.
And there... We are today, Bruno, the state that has the fewest secretariats.
Romeu Zema: If you were to do a survey, despite Minas being the second most populous state in Brazil — second only to São Paulo — we are the leanest state, with 14 secretariats.
Romeu Zema: Many cities in the interior have more secretaries than we have there.