Romeu Zema: Through perks, through jetons, and I like to do everything in black and white. Transparent. Transparent.
Romeu Zema: Salary is salary and there are no perks. If today a secretary of Minas earns 28 thousand reais, it's 28 thousand reais. Before he earned 7, just for show, but put 70 thousand in his pocket.
So much so that Minas Gerais, Vilela, was the state in 22nd place in terms of transparency of public accounts during my administration; it went to 1st place.
Desconhecido: But what about this 160 billion debt here?
Romeu Zema: You've probably financed something in your life, haven't you? Unfortunately, I have. Have you? Nowadays