Romeu Zema: And Aldo, I think, has that stain on his résumé.
Romeu Zema: But has he changed? Does he think, is he still leftist? No, I think he may even have somewhat reformed, you know? Yes, but you always remain with a foot back in case that virus isn't there and could be incubated and manifest itself.
I'll bring him here, let's see if he's an incubated leftist or if he's already center or right‑wing.
Desconhecido: Next, Leni.
Romeu Zema: He was here, right? He was here about a month ago, more or less. And here he spoke about his pre‑candidacy, right?
