Tarcisio: Did it work?
Tarcisio: It worked.
And what... Experience in those countries, what the literature showed, is that there you can flip the switch and think in terms of emancipation with maintenance costs decreasing over time.
Tarcisio: And that is evidence of success in a program of this nature.
Tarcisio: This is fundamental, Rosana, for us to really get people out of a state of need.