Tarcisio: It's too much concern with one's own circle and a lack of connection with the person on the ground.
Tarcisio: That's the big problem.
And if you don't see that person on the ground, who is the object of your work, you're dead, you're out, you won't deliver results.
Tarcisio: We end up having to be... We need to be guided by people's pain.
Tarcisio: What problem do I have to solve?