Tarcisio: I have to measure the effectiveness of that, because sometimes you have a cost that is even the cost of the control you have to eliminate.
Tarcisio: So we were doing that work, piling up victories, removing these obstacles.
And that's why, in the end, you reach the largest investment budget in history.
Tarcisio: You can boast more than 30 billion in investment per year just with Treasury resources.
Tarcisio: Besides what I'm bringing from the private sector to make that investment.