Tarcisio: And the bill will come.
Tarcisio: So it's one of two things: either the PT would have to redo a number of things, the PT would have to carry out deep reforms, and it doesn't seem to me that they have that disposition, because they would attack their base and end up badly, or Brazil will break, and that's also bad—equally bad.
So, there is no other way, there is no alternative.
Tarcisio: C, there are only A and B. Either we face head-on reforms that will be necessary, or we will watch what we watched in the government of 1 to 2.
Tarcisio: We will shrink, shrink, shrink, until we reach a recession.