Tarcisio: Talk about topics, and people need to understand this, like revenue, expenditure, public spending, indebtedness, primary deficit.
Tarcisio: It is important that people understand that.
People need to know that if I spend more, I become more indebted, I have more inflation, I have higher interest rates, I do not prosper.
Tarcisio: And the reverse path is also real.
Tarcisio: If we move four or five levers, the return is explosive.