Tarcisio: How is it that there is no money to give a raise?
Tarcisio: And these are absolutely distinct things; we cannot compare capital expenditure with current expenditure — capital expenditure is covered with capital revenue — and sometimes we see, in those who criticize, an absurd ignorance of what a budget is.
People who sometimes don't understand how things work, the limits we have, the risks we have, because, observe, what will happen to the economy?
Tarcisio: With 9 trillion in debt, paying one trillion in interest per year, with an interest rate here of 14.75% per year, with now an oil shock, with companies hitting the brakes, afraid to invest, what will the behavior of the economy be and, therefore, the behavior of revenue?
Tarcisio: And these are matters that we sometimes don't stop to discuss.