Tarcisio: And that's what the government is doing.
Tarcisio: And then, for lack of an agenda, creating the big public security solution, the PEC, is the bet they're making.
Everyone knows that's not what will solve the problem.
Tarcisio: The problem is much deeper, the problem is structural, the problem demands cooperation.
Tarcisio: So, how are we really going to cooperate?