Tarcisio: So our homicide rate is lower than Santa Catarina's, for example, which is the second best.
Tarcisio: And we have been working very hard to make the state of São Paulo truly a safer state.
Look at the reduction in cargo theft that we have had.
Tarcisio: You can talk to any businessman there at CETSESP, at the transport union, about how it dropped by more than 25%.
Tarcisio: That is extremely significant.